Ship named LILLIES

[murphy girl]

Hi,

I am trying to trace info about relatives who departed for Australia from Liverpool in 1857 (mid- year I assume as they docked in Victoria in Dec. 1857) on the "Lillies"

We have quite a bit of info since their arrival but was wondering if anyone knows did shipping companies keep records of unassisted immigrants at that time that would note their address prior to departure.

Thank you
Murphy girl.

[trish1120]

You would have to look at the actual fiche of the passenger list to see if it contains any additional info;
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search_results.asp

Have you followed up Margaret who I presume was Maurices Sister?
Her Marriage /Death Cert may have info on their Parents.

There is a 28 year old Maurice Murphy in the Army in Chatham , Kent, on the 1851 Census. He was born Dunncallough, Limerick, Ieland
HO107/1611/409/22
Do you know if Maurice and Ellen married in Ireland or England?
Was Maurice Jnr born c 1851 born in Ireland?

Trish

[seaweed]

As far as I am aware outward passenger lists from the UK prior to 1890 have been destroyed.
LILLIES was owned by a Canadian merchant so I think the chance of the owners keeping a record would be slim.
I have all the details on the vessel if you require them. It would seem there is a crew agreement and logbook covering the voyage in question but again I would doubt it would contain much about your relatives unless one of them died whilst onboard.

[Canterburynorth]

Hi Murphy girl,

Maybe if you posted some details about your rellies, names ages etc rootschatters might be able to help trace them before departure
Its amazing what the people on this forum can do!

Regards
Leandra

[NicNot]

Hi Murphy Girl

We are from the same family of John Blaney & Mary Murphy. They were my GGGG grandparents. I have only started recently researching our family history of the Blaney Murphys from Ireland to Australia.  I have followed all of your links which gave me heaps of info thanks.

I gather you have seen this site: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=fernery&surname=Blaney%2C+John

I was wondering if you have had any luck in going back even further from John & Mary?  It seems that records were ruined around that time.  I thought there may have been some info on Maurice's birth certificate about them.

Would be interested to have a chat with you.

Cheers


Nicnot

[murphy girl]

Hi Nicnot,

Great to read your message and it would appear that maybe you have gone back one more generation than I have as I have been unable to locate the birth certificate of Maurice Blaney Murphy, only know he was born in Mt. Plummer from information on of his children's birth certificates.

Do you have any details about John Blaney or Mary Murphy such as marriage date, place of birth etc and if so would you be able to advise them to me.
Through what line in the family are you related to John Blaney & Mary Murphy?l

Yes, I have seen the link on Ancestry and it does have quite a great deal of information and I think we ( the family researchers) have found some more since this site was updated last.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,
Murphy girl.

[NicNot]

Hi Murphy Girl,

No I have nothing of note at this stage although my Aunty has been researching too so she may have more.  Will let you know if anything comes to hand.

I am along the line of Maurice, then John, then John and my grandfather was Gerald (5th generation).  It is almost addictive once you get a taste for history!

Cheers

Nicnot

[XXXX]

Hi Murphy Girl,

Online list of passengers on board the "Lillies" various voyages on the Public Record Office Victoria:

Just type in either the Passengers Surname or the Ship.

http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/indexes/index_search.asp?searchid=23

Cheers,

Janet.

[murphy girl]

Hi Janet666,

Thanks for the info re the shipping lists, we have located the family's arrival in Australia in 1857 on same but it does not mention anything about where they lived prior to "setting sail" and this is what I am trying to find out.

Kind Regards,
Murphy girl.