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Re: Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 25 April 12 20:25 BST (UK) »

 
I searched the film of Parish Registers of Births Marriages and Burials in Heptonstall and Cross Stone, unfortunately the births pages for the early 1760's were not there - it said something about binding being too tight on the book.



Not sure if this thread is still 'live' or if the mystery surrounding the 1 or 2 Phineas Illingworths has been solved.

I too had a problem with a baptism being in a part of the parish register w hich had been tightly bound, making reading the left hand side of the page impossible. It was suggested to me to investigate the Bishop's Transcripts at the Borthwick Institute, York. I have not yet done so but the BTs for your area may be held there.

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Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 26 April 12 09:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Josey,

Thank you for the information, I will contact cousin Paul Trevor (no. 1) to see if he has got any further with this, he is far more active with research than I am at the moment.
I'm closer to York than Trevor so if he hasn't got any further I will try to find out if the Borthwick Institute has the relavent records, and pay a visit if they do.

Love your avatar pic, I've got 3 cats, one black, one tux and a calico, all characters!
Names: Brooks, Hall, Illingworth, Mallaby, Pybus, Selby, Winstanley

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Re: Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 26 April 12 10:19 BST (UK) »
The cats are a rescued mother & son pictured 3 years ago while Eric was a kitten; we did have a tux too but she died in January aged 18.

I found your post because I was searching for the Wilkinson name. I have a Holland family in Midgley; some of whom were baptised in Heptonstall. A John Holland weaver of Midgley married an Elizabeth Wilkinson spinster of Erringden in Halifax St John's [just before Hardwicke's Law] on 12 May 1752. Children were Susan 1753, James 1755, Hannah 1759,  Ann 1760, James 1761. I am descended from James 1761 & via the line living in Nova Scotia & Ireland I now by coincidence live 15 miles from Midgley!

Does this Elizabeth Wilkinson 'jive' with any of your research? Was it a common name in the area?

Don't know if you had found the date of a marriage for a Phineas Illingworth & a Betty Booth of 18 May 1788 at Bradford St Peter's? It's on the scanned West Yorkshire parish records on ancestry but it does say 'both of this parish'. 

Josey
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 26 April 12 11:31 BST (UK) »
The cats are a rescued mother & son pictured 3 years ago while Eric was a kitten; we did have a tux too but she died in January aged 18.

I found your post because I was searching for the Wilkinson name. I have a Holland family in Midgley; some of whom were baptised in Heptonstall. A John Holland weaver of Midgley married an Elizabeth Wilkinson spinster of Erringden in Halifax St John's [just before Hardwicke's Law] on 12 May 1752. Children were Susan 1753, James 1755, Hannah 1759,  Ann 1760, James 1761. I am descended from James 1761 & via the line living in Nova Scotia & Ireland I now by coincidence live 15 miles from Midgley!

Does this Elizabeth Wilkinson 'jive' with any of your research? Was it a common name in the area?

Don't know if you had found the date of a marriage for a Phineas Illingworth & a Betty Booth of 18 May 1788 at Bradford St Peter's? It's on the scanned West Yorkshire parish records on ancestry but it does say 'both of this parish'. 

Josey


Hi

No idea! which? 1 or 2 or same person.

Hope it helps



These sources mention Betty Booth also fits Bradford marriage to Booth at St Peters given above

Does not seem to have Todmorden connections


http://www.geni.com/people/Phineas-Illingworth/6000000001655719844


Birthdate: September 17, 1763 
Birthplace: Allerton, yorks 
Death: Died 1837 


http://thepeerage.com/p23521.htm

http://thepeerage.com/p23519.htm

Phineas Illingworth
 b. 17 September 1763, d. 28 July 1837
 He was the son of William Illingworth and Martha Wilinson.1 He married Betty Booth on 18 May 1788.1 He died on 28 July 1837 at age 73.1
     He lived at Bradford, Yorkshire, England.1
Child of Phineas Illingworth and Betty Booth
Daniel Illingworth+1 b. 12 Dec 1792, d. 18 Jun 1854

http://illingworth.net/Illingtree2.pdf

In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth


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Re: Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 26 April 12 17:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Josey, (and Dobfarm) 

I pulled out a descendant tree that Trevor (1) sent me some time back, (I've really got to get down to putting all the extra info on my Family Tree programme, Illness over the last couple of years has slowed me down.)  Yes I found the marriage info on it, also that they were buried at Westgate Chapel.  Their son Daniel and his wife Elizabeth Hill were buried at Undercliffe Cemetery.

As far as I was aware the only Wilkinson in our tree was Martha, Phineas's mother, she was born in Allerton in c1742.

But on looking through this latest tree update I found two more, a Wilfred Wilkinson married Flora Illingworth in 1903, I have no birthdate for Wilfred but Flora was born 1877, no places or children listed, Flora's parents married in Bradford.
 
The second one was Harold Crabtree Wilkinson, 1904-1985, born 28 June 1904, married 7 August 1930 to Madge Illingworth, born 19 May 1905 in Fernbank, Bradford Road, Shipley, she died 10th July 2003, Steeton Court Nursing Home, Steeton, Keighley.  Harold died 12th June 1985 in Northallerton.  No children listed.

Re: cats, my three were all born to feral mothers, you would never know it now, they are real home loving cats, though Rappy, the tux (mommy's boy) likes to hunt, he keeps bringing me presents.  I don't mind the mice but I wish he'd leave the rats outside!  We lost our matriarch Sammy jo at the age of 23 years, two months and 9 days old, she was a real bossy boots tortie.
Names: Brooks, Hall, Illingworth, Mallaby, Pybus, Selby, Winstanley

Research areas:  UK:  Kent, Sussex, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Cumberland
USA: Virginia, N. Carolina, Tennessee