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Offline Jacsel

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Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« on: Thursday 24 March 05 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone have access to the Parish Records for Heptonstall and/or Todmorden, from the 1760's through the early1800's?  I have a problem family of Illingworth's that I need to connect up, due to conflicting birth dates for the parents etc.,
Names: Brooks, Hall, Illingworth, Mallaby, Pybus, Selby, Winstanley

Research areas:  UK:  Kent, Sussex, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Cumberland
USA: Virginia, N. Carolina, Tennessee

Offline dinkey

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Re: Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 24 March 05 11:59 GMT (UK) »
I can't help with your request but you may like to subscribe to Rootsweb mailing list for Todmorden.
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-TODMORDEN.html

If you also search their archive there is a message from a Trevor Illingworth
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 12:32:31 -0000
From:  "The Illingworths" <drummoyne@manx.net>
To: ENG-TODMORDEN-L@rootsweb.com
Message-ID: <000001c4e4fd$a5d253e0$d10989d5@tinyypiahozo>
Subject: Phineas Illingworth
Content-Type: text/plain;
   charset="windows-1250"

I am researching my ancestor Phineas Illingworth born in Todmorden in
the range 1860 to 1880. He was married to Betty and they has a son John
on 5th March 1805 in Heptonstall.

Can anybody help me establish Betty's surname and if there were any
other children.

Thanks

Trevor Illingworth
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I hope this helps.

dinkey
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Re: Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 March 05 17:28 GMT (UK) »
If the records are in Halfax Library in the Archives I am willing to do a lookup.

It would help me if you would email them to see if they have the records you need. And then let me have the details to narrow it down a bit.

Calderdale Archives at Halifax Library;
telephone 01422 392636, fax 01422 341083 or e-mail: calderdale@wyjs.org.uk

Lyn
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Re: Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 March 05 19:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lyn,

Thank you, I will contact them after the Easter weekend and let you know what they say. 

Jackie S Brooks
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Names: Brooks, Hall, Illingworth, Mallaby, Pybus, Selby, Winstanley

Research areas:  UK:  Kent, Sussex, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Cumberland
USA: Virginia, N. Carolina, Tennessee


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Re: Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 March 05 19:10 GMT (UK) »
A PS for Dinkey,
The message you posted from Trevor Illingworth - what a coincidence, it is Phineas I am after too, Trevor is a possible cousin, strangely enough I have just recently found a 'fourth' cousin, also called Trevor Illingworth, and all three of us are trying to find out if our respective Phineas's are one and the same. There is a  discrepancy in dates, approx. 15 years, but too many coincidences!! 
Jackie S Brooks
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Names: Brooks, Hall, Illingworth, Mallaby, Pybus, Selby, Winstanley

Research areas:  UK:  Kent, Sussex, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Cumberland
USA: Virginia, N. Carolina, Tennessee

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Re: Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 March 05 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Well what a turnup.

Hope you are successful in claiming Phineas as yours. Like you say with so many coincidences there has to be a link for you.

Glad to be of help.

dinkey
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Re: Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 March 05 11:46 BST (UK) »
Message for Lyn, (lynWings)

Hi Lyn,  I have been in touch with Halifax Archives, and they do have the Parish Registers for Heptonstall and Todmorden.

My problem is one of duplication, in more ways than one!  Firstly I am in contact with two separate Paul Trevor Illingworths, one is a fourth cousin, the other may be a cousin!  We are all trying to pull together information on a Phineas Illingworth.

Cousin Paul (#1) and I have a Phineas, born c1762, died 1837.  His parents were William Illingworth and Martha Wilkinson.  This Phineas married a Betty Booth, date unknown,  and according to our information they had a son William, born 18 November 1802 in Todmorden, and a daughter Sarah, born 7 July 1807, Heptonstall.  Rather late, but not impossible.

Paul (#2) has a Phineas born 1777, Todmorden, Heptonstall, no parent listed, married in 1801, Heptonstall, to a Betty, born c1780, and they had a son John, born 5 March 1805, Heptonstall.

It seems to us that the children being born close together, John between the other two, and in the same area, that we suspect the two Phineas's are one and the same, but we do need verification. 
 

I hope this is all clear enough.  If you need any more info or clarification, email me at:  selbybrooks@yahoo.com
Thank you for your offer to help.  Jackie
Names: Brooks, Hall, Illingworth, Mallaby, Pybus, Selby, Winstanley

Research areas:  UK:  Kent, Sussex, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Cumberland
USA: Virginia, N. Carolina, Tennessee

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Re: Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 April 05 18:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Jackie,
 
No luck I'm afraid.
 
I searched the film of Parish Registers of Births Marriages and Burials in Heptonstall and Cross Stone, unfortunately the births pages for the early 1760's were not there - it said something about binding being too tight on the book. Other pages on the film were so faded or illegible that I did not find any Illingworths or Booths. The marriage section was easier to read but again no matches for the late 1700's and early 1800's. I looked for Phineas's children too. I also looked on the Parish Registers of Christ Church and St Mary's in Todmorden which were much easier to read - obviously preserved better - but again no luck.
 
I was so disappointed not to have found anything at all.
 
Anyway I've just been on Rootsweb and found this link which is very interesting, I'm not sure if you have tried it already but there is someone on there who has done some transcribing and is willing to share his data. Not sure if he will have any more I assume his data will have come from film too.
 
Just read this bit;
It should be noted that St. Paul's at Cross Stone was not licensed for marriages until July 1837, although 63 marriages were recorded immediately prior to 1754. People from Langfield and Stansfield would be expected to marry at Heptonstall
so the marriage was likely to have been Heptonstall. I don't know about non conformist marriages - I haven't been doing this family history long enough to know about those records!
 
http://www.todmordenandwalsden.co.uk/

Anyway if I can be of any more help please let me know. I find this hobby fascinating and will let you know if I pick anything else up re Phineas.
 
Best of luck with the search,
Lyn
DEVON; Snow, Hill, Cole, Chapple, Davy
EAST RIDING OF YORKSHIRE: Barker, Dunn, Routh, Wilkinson, Wright
IRELAND; Wilson, Jordan, Kiely, Barrett, Donoran, McGrath
LANCASHIRE; Rayner
LONDON; Brooman, Fenn, Morley, James
NORTHAMPTON; Marriott, Coles, Lamb
WEST YORKSHIRE; Binns, Knowling, Paterson, Rayner

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Re: Parish Records-Heptonstall-Todmorden
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 April 05 08:10 BST (UK) »
Sorry can't help but have you had a look at the following site
http://www.hebdenbridgehistory.org.uk/index.html
There is a download of inscriptions for Heptonstall graveyard available -you never know it might help a little!
If you need any help on any addresses or places in the area let me know, I lived in Heptonstall/Colden for 30 odd years .
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