Muthill, Perthshire.

[fifer1947]

Maybe Patrick was considered a Gaelic type name, and dropped for that reason.

There was a lot of anti Catholic/Jacobite feeling on the part of the English "conquerors" and nobles.  Patrick was seen as a Catholic name whereas Peter was not.  No one wanted to be imprisoned for a name, many Stuarts changed to Stewart for that reason too.

If I had the names of Patrick and Shusans children that would give me a starting place to try and go back further

To be fair you have to establish which Duncan you are researching and his origins first.

On a different but related topic, I have traced all the children of William Mcara and Grace Clink Watson except one - Peter born 1862 Kincardine Perth, he is believed to have died between 1891 (his wife recorded at her parents address as being married)  and 1898 Ceres Fife (his wifes death cert in 1898 described her as a widow) but there does not seem to be any record of his death.
I have a vague memory of my husbands grandfather telling me a story about his fathers brother Peter who was killed in an industrial accident which he witnessed but where the accident took place was not mentioned. Any advice

How is William related to Duncan?  Also if his son Peter died in 1891 then a death certificate will be available at GROS.

[mcmcara]

William is a direct descendant of Duncan McAra (son of Patrick) and Isobel Alice. if you look at my previous posts I have the male line listed.

Peter is my husbands greatgrandfathers brother, Ive been in contact with several other people descended from this line who are doing research but nobody has been able to trace Peters death. He and his brother Duncan my husbands greatgrandfather were brick walls for quite a few people until I put the family tree on line nobody realised he had moved to Ireland around 1918

mcmcara

[fifer1947]

Sorry Ive taken so long to reply - Peters parents are Duncan McAra and Isobel Alice married 6th Dec 1807,Monzie. If Peter was their eldest son then there is a good chance that his grandfather was also Peter McAra, names for two other siblings are John and Duncan , Ive found a will for John Alice dated 1813, possibly Isobels father.

Mcmcara

William??

Good luck with your research. 

[mcmcara]

Sorry bout that fifer, our line goes like this  -direct ancestors in capitals

Duncan Mcara and Isobel Alice m 1807, sons PETER 1809 William 1811 John 1814 Duncan 1817, James 1820

Peter McAra and Isabelle Steele m 1832 sons Duncan 1832, WILLIAM 1835, Peter 1839, James 1840, John 1843 and David 1852

William Mcara and Grace Clink Watson m 1858 sons Peter 1862, William George 1873 and DUNCAN 1877

Duncan Mcara and Mary Toal m Dublin 1901 sons William 1903, Peter 1906, Patrick 1909,DUNCAN J 1912 and John F 1915

Duncan J McAra m Elizabeth Brown London 1939 sons Duncan 1942, Michael 1946 Peter 1948, John 1953 and Francis 1955


I found wills for two Alice Males on Scotlands People William in 1781 and John in 1813

mcmcara

[allblack]

Hi there,

I am doing some research into the history of the Christie family at Drummawhance and was looking for any information that would be available relating to Andrew Christie and / or Dinah Murray who were married in Blackford on 25th August 1811. In addition are there any records for James Christie, and Robert Christie?

Regards
Gc

[Lemon Nelly]

Hi not sure if any of this is any good to you but.....
ELECTORS
                                             of
                                The Parish of Muthill
                                             in
                                 The County of Perth
                                           1832
James Christie , farmer , tenant , lands , houses and mill , Millness

Hugh Christie , farmer , tenant , lands , Cairn




Of

The Parish of Auchterarder

in

The County of Perth

1832

Robert Christie , tanner , proprietor , houses , gardens , and other subjects , Smiddyhaugh

 

James Christie , carter , proprietor , lands , houses , and other subjects , Auchterarder

Also not the Christies you mention but may be of interest, on the poor law list 1899 are a

couple of Christies

Ann Brough or Christie           88        Water Wynd              Widow      Deblity


Christian Christie or Comrie  72           South Bridgend       Widow        Debility

[allblack]

Thanks that is very useful. I understand that the early old parish records were destroyed in a fire thus I am struggling to find any evidence of James and Roberts parents who are Andrew Christie / Dinah Murray. I understand there is an entry in the OPR for Auchterarder of their marriage in 1811 in blackford but have no further detail of their lineage. Also are you aware of any old records that may record the presence of a Mill at Millness?

regards
GC

[bleckie]

Hi

If there is a mention in the OPR for Auchterarder of there marriage in Blackford then I think that they
were from these Parishes and not from Muthill Parish.

The link below is a copy of the Parish map for Perthshire showing the various parishes in Perthshire.

http://www.scotlandsfamily.com/parish-map-perth.htm

Yours Aye
BruceL

P.S. have just checked the IGI 
There is an extracted record for a marriage of Andrew Christie and Dinah Murray at Muthill in 1811

you should be able to view the record on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Have you been able to find a death for Andrew if after 1855 it should give you his parents names.

[bleckie]

Hi

On scotlandspeople there is a death for a Andrew Christie in Auchterarder in 1872 this gentleman would appear to have been born in 1792. Cannot find a death of a female with the names Christie/Murray may have died before 1855

Yours Aye
BruceL