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Re: Hannah O'Kane Garvagh and Francis Boyle Aghadowey
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 29 July 10 15:42 BST (UK) »
1863 Ironmongers' Co. Notes on Tenants- Glasgort:
- Patrick Boyle (the Banker) 20 acres 1 rod 10 perches, annual rent £16 1s. Wife, two children, one grandchild. [1886 Francis Boyle jun.]
- James Boyle (Bridget) 8 acres 1 rod 2 perches, annual rent £6 7s. Wife, son and his wife. He is 80 years of age. [1886 Francis Boyle sen.]
- John Boyle, 5 acres 1 rod 30 perches, annual rent £3 16 s. Wife, six children. One of the daughters very seriously afflicted; the mother wants to get her into the infirmary.
- Richard Boyle, 4 acres 3 rods 39 perches, annual rent £3 17s. And two sisters. Very poor place.
- Widow Mary Ann Boyle, annual rent 1s. Eight children. Very poor. Gives up at death.
- Patrick Boyle (Cutt) 5 acres 0 rods 3 perches, annual rent £3 12s. A bachelor. One niece.
- James Boyle (Pat) 5 acres 3 rods 13 perches, annual rent £5 16s. Wife and one daughter. [1886 Francis Boyle jun.]

1886 Ironmongers' Tenants List- Glasgort:
Boyle, Francis senior (3.1.2) rent £5 5s 0d.
Boyle, Francis junior (5.3.13) rent £4 5s 0d. Same as next entry-
Boyle, Francis junior (20.1.10) rent £12 15s 0d.
Boyle, Richard (4.3.39) rent £3 0s 0d.
Boyle, John (5.1.30) rent £3 0s 0d.#Boyle, Richard (no land listed) rent 1s [same place as Widow Mary Ann Boyle in 1863].

Also have 1901 census if you want it.

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1863 Ironmogers Co. Notes on Tenants-Glasgort
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 29 July 10 16:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Aghadowey, according to the 1901 census my gt. grandfather Thomas Boyle & sister Bridget were still living with their mother,  widow Mary Ann Boyle.  Could you help me find out the names of their other 6 siblings mentioned in the 1863 Ironmogers Co. Notes on Tenants- Glasgort. When my gt. grandfather Thomas married, on the certificate it states his father's still living, that was in 1884 but it appears that his mother Mary Ann was a widow in 1863. Can you also shine any light on that please. All of the Boyle families in Glasgort must be related, I'd like to find out the connection between them if possible. Hope this isn't too much.

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Re: Hannah O'Kane Garvagh and Francis Boyle Aghadowey
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 29 July 10 16:26 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately the Ironmonger's 1863 notes just list number of children but not their names.

Does the marriage certificate (1884) actually say the father was living or are you assuming this to be the case because he's not noted as deceased?

Don't think the Thomas Boyle still in Glasgort could be your great-grandfather-
The 1901 census shows Mary Ann Boyle (widow) with 2 children - Thomas (47) and Bridget (50)- both unmarried.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Agivey/Glasgort/1516281/
1911 census shows Thomas Boyle and sister Bridget still living together and unmarried.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Agivey/Glasgort/652162/

The Boyle are probably all related and inter-married with local families. Perhaps best to start from the beginning and see if I can find more information on your family in my records.
What information is given on Thomas' marriage certificate, etc.?

Added- a Thomas Boyle, farmer, Glasgort, died 29 Dec.1923- might be the Thomas living with sister Bridget in 1911.
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Thomas Boyle
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 29 July 10 17:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks for replying so quickly. Thomas Boyle was married to Sarah Donaghy on 16th May 1884 at Armoy R.C., registration district of Ballycastle. Thomas Boyle is described as of full age, a bachelor and a servant residing at Aghadowey at the time of his marriage, his father's name is given as John Boyle and "living" written directly under it in the same box and described as a farmer in the next box. For years I've always thought Thomas Boyle's parents were John Boyle & Peggy Jane (or Margaret) Loughry  but having seen the 1901 & 1911 censuses I have my  doubts. In both censuses Thomas Boyle may have said he was unmarried as his wife, Sarah Donaghy died in 1897, leaving his youngest child Annie to be raised by Sarah's parents in Armoy. The fact my Thomas Boyle named his 2 daughters Mary & Annie, in that order, leads me to believe the Thomas Boyle, son of Widow Mary Ann Boyle are one & the same. My Thomas Boyle died 7th January 1931 in Armoy, aged 76 & described as a farmer.

Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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James


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Re: Hannah O'Kane Garvagh and Francis Boyle Aghadowey
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 29 July 10 18:09 BST (UK) »
Afrsaid I'm not convinced yet that your Thomas is the one in Glasgort. Mary and Ann are both common Christian names and the fact that he gave these 2 names to his daughters means very little. Traditionally one would expect a first daughter to be named after the mother's mother but not both after the same granny. A friend at Glasgort would have known more about the Boyle there but unfortunately he died last year.

Think I found wee Annie Boyle in 1901 census- is Patrick her brother?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Ballygomartin/Hannahstown/191891/
and in 1911-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Armoy/Armoy_Town/112372/
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Re: Hannah O'Kane Garvagh and Francis Boyle Aghadowey
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 29 July 10 18:44 BST (UK) »
You have a point there. My grandmother Annie Boyle's & her sister Mary's maternal grandmother was Mary Donaghy (nee Connor). I was always told by my Mum (from Armoy, Co.Antrim) that one of her father's sister's was named Rebecca and that they came from Landagivey as opposed to Glasgort, Agivey, Aghadowey. I found Rebecca Boyle to be daughter of John Boyle of Landagivey & Margaret Jane (Peggy Jane) Loughry of Kilrea and is why I've always assumed them to be his parents, but I've not actually found any link from Thomas Boyle himself to John & Margaret Jane Boyle (nee Loughry). Can you give me any pointers?

You're also right, in the 1901 Census, both Patrick & Annie Boyle were still with their maternal grandparents in Armoy, Patrick left for Greenock, Scotland, leaving only my granny Annie Boyle with them in the 1911 Census.

Annie Boyle married James Cushnahan of Armoy. I've found it easier to research the Cushnahan side as mum is still living & I have many relatives on that side still living in Armoy & Ballycastle to help me. As I have no living relatives on the Boyle side & it is in the next county (mum didn't have any contact with them) I'm really coming unstuck with the Boyles. Any help would be appreciated.

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James

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Re: Hannah O'Kane Garvagh and Francis Boyle Aghadowey
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 29 July 10 19:17 BST (UK) »
PRONI website lists a a Patrick Boyle, farmer, of Glasgort, who died 17 May 1874- granted to John Boyle, Agivey, blacksmith.

In 1911 census a Hugh Boyle and sister Rebecca Boyle were living in Landagivey-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Agivey/Landagivey/652172/
In 1901 they are shown with parents John and Margaret-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Agivey/Landagivey/1516298/
Also in 1901 are two Boyle brothers- probably dead before 1911 census-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Agivey/Landagivey/1516297/

I should also mention that most of the lands at Glasgort, Landagivey, etc.were cleared to build the aerodrome during WWII. Some of the families came back but many did not return.

Will keep looking and see what I can find.
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Re: Hannah O'Kane Garvagh and Francis Boyle Aghadowey
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 29 July 10 19:33 BST (UK) »
1863 Ironmongers Notes on Tenants- Landagivey:
-John Boyle (6 acres 1 rod 25 perches) annual rent £4.2s. Wife, five children, and his brother (a lunatic). Has repaired his house since the visit of the last deputation.
-Patrick Boyle (13.3.10) £8.1s. Now Widow Boyle. One son, one daughter, and two grandchildren, one son, his wife, and six children.
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Re: Hannah O'Kane Garvagh and Francis Boyle Aghadowey
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 29 July 10 20:38 BST (UK) »
I've seen that will granted to John Boyle the blacksmith of Agivey from Patrick Boyle (a bachelor) of Glasgort. It states this John was a newphew of this Patrick.

Mum also mentioned Hugh aswell as Rebecca, so it does point towards John Boyle & Margaret Jane Loughry being the parents, but still no link to Thomas. Just fished out John Boyle & Margaret Loughry's Marriage Certificate, they were married 12/12/1851, just noticed this John Boyle is from Bovagh and Margaret Jane Loughry's from Kilrea, the witnesses were James Kane & Margaret Boyle both of Landagivey. I have baptism details of an Ann, Hugh & Rose baptised by 1863 & details of a Margaret, Hugh & Rebecca born after 1863 to John & Margaret Boyle (nee Loughry) but no Thomas. Presumably the 1st Hugh died and a later son also named Hugh.

Mum did mention the land was sold or confiscated with compensation to build a military airfield, thanks for confirming that.

James