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census look up 1881, 1891, 1901
« on: Saturday 10 April 10 04:55 BST (UK) »
Hello ,

    Trying to find any information on Margaret Anderson b. abt. 1861 India.  (name was actually Margherita but went by Margaret.)  Her father was John Anderson trumpet major in RHA, sister was Rosina or Annie, brother John.  The family moved to England around 1880, and settled near London. (sorry can't be more precise).  Margaret married and had family.  Any help very much appreciated.  Having hard time finding her.
          Kind regards, awp.

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Re: census look up 1881, 1891, 1901
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 April 10 05:21 BST (UK) »
Tricky
Any ideas on when she marries? She could marry before any census after their return.
Do you have a connection detail through any of the family?

I looked for Marg* Anderson with India but not getting far - added father John but nothing

Thought I'd look for Rosina as Ros* and all I could see was this Rosalie a young  wife of a John but he is far from a trumpet major - perhaps he had a change
1881
John C. C. Anderson 49 India Head Civil Engineer
Rosalie C. Anderson 22 India Wife looks like she was a Thorp as 1901 with mother Sarah
Annette C. Anderson 1 India Daughter
with 4 servants
RG11; Piece: 50; Folio: 52; Page: 4; Kensington
Brompton

1891 Northam Devon
Rasatie C C Anderson 32 Bengal, India Head someone in 2008 put alternative for her name to Rosalie -
Louisa C Anderson 26 Fillundhur, India   Daughter
Annette C Anderson 11 Simla, India Daughter
Harry C Anderson 9 Middlesex, London, England   Son
John V Anderson 3 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England   Son
plus servants
RG12; Piece: 1787; Folio 29; Page 8

That is a family from India with father John and a Annie (Annette) and a John
Ron was born in Shepherds Bush and "knew" London fairly well
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Re: census look up 1881, 1891, 1901
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 April 10 14:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Ron,

   Thanks for reply.   There might be a connection to the surname "Walsh".  Margaret may have married in India, and come after.  Don't have subscription to Ancestry, but they show a Margaret Jane Anderson b.1860 India, Husband James living in Surrey 1891 and 1901 census. Our facts are few, and shaky at best.

   Found John the brother.  Wife, Frances and two daughters in 1891 census Hampshire.

   Thanks for trying.  awp

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Re: census look up 1881, 1891, 1901
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 11 April 10 00:44 BST (UK) »
I thought you were looking for a Miss Anderson? Mrs James Anderson is shown as Margaret from India in 1891 and Margt from Bolarum India in 1901 - middle name Jane is not mentioned in either. I looked for a James Anderson marriage to any Margaret Jane and nothing. Looking for one to a Margaret only one close to Wimbledon I could see was in Chelsea 1885 with 2 women James could have married Eggleton    Margarette or
Johnson    Jane. Checked with Margh* for your women's other spelling but no marriages to James Anderson. Well from 1880.
I suppose your Miss Anderson could marry a James Anderson in India - he is shown as Bank Manager in 1891 an East India Broker in 1901

Does Bolarum give any link?

No marriages to Walsh but there is
Marriages Dec 1891   Chester le S.    10a   741
Anderson    Margaret to Atkinson    Thomas or Welsh    Peter
I could see a Margaret Welsh married to Peter in 1901
or a Margaret Welsh from India

There is in 1901 in Derby but age is wrong
Margaret Walsh   abt 1870   India   Wife
Ernest Walsh   abt 1871   Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England   Head
Louise Walsh   abt 1884   Bermondsey, London, England   Sister
Margaret Walsh   abt 1898   Plimlico, London, England   Daughter
Gladys Walsh   abt 1900   Derby, Derbyshire, England   Daughter

Could not see that family in 1891 or find a marriage of an Ernest Walsh to any Margaret until Sep 1897     St. Geo. H. Sq.    1a   1027-  REES    Margaret Louisa, which I presume is that couple as fits with kids ages.
So wrong age - wrong maiden name unless previously married and could not see a Rees to Marg* Anderson marriage
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Re: census look up 1881, 1891, 1901
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 11 April 10 01:19 BST (UK) »
I see the brother in 1891 says born 1862/63 East Moris, Punjaub

Could we get to basics which may help find her - what is your interest in Margaret? Have you found their parents on return to UK?
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Re: census look up 1881, 1891, 1901
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 11 April 10 01:26 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

   All I know for sure is what was stated in original post.  Don't know when or where she married, or to whom (Walsh was only a possible connection detail from family member)

   Thanks for all your digging there.  Will keep information on file may have to come back to it as things develop.

   Regards, awp

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Re: census look up 1881, 1891, 1901
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 11 April 10 06:55 BST (UK) »
Ah I was just thinking if the only known family detail  we have is the brother in 1891 then perhaps his marriage certificate would help as other family even Margaret might be witnesses. I once picked up a ggm sister's married name as she was witness at ggm wedding.
So Frances A on 1891 born IOW Hampshire and a 1 yo child in 1891 must point to them being this one
Marriages Mar 1889  Alverstoke    2b   757
Anderson    John
BARNES    Henry
Cook    Sarah Ann
Dunford    Frances Annie

and sadly in 1901 she is a widow - a cook at workhouse
Frances Ann Anderson   abt 1863   Iow, West Cowes, Hampshire, England   Servant   Easebourne, Sussex

John's marriage cert may well help



Back to Mrs James Anderson if you feel she might be woman you want
The 1891 has these children
C M Anderson   abt 1885   Lka, London, England    Daughter
M F Anderson   abt 1887   Bayswater, London, England   Daughter
M E Anderson   abt 1889   N Kensington, London, England   Daughter

not with parents in 1901 ???? perhaps at boarding school

Note: CM born Lka is a nonsense she was born India Ceylon perhaps a transcriber wanted to put Sri Lanka
So that does indicate James and Margaret married in India.

Looked for births for other two as you might want to purchase a cert to see mothers maiden name

Births Jun 1887
Anderson    Mary Forrie         Paddington    1a   21   
Anderson    May Florence         Pancras    1b   181
Births Sep 1888
ANDERSON    Maud Ella         Kensington    1a   74
Ron was born in Shepherds Bush and "knew" London fairly well
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Re: census look up 1881, 1891, 1901
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 11 April 10 17:13 BST (UK) »
Hi,

    Already have marr. cert for John Anderson and Francis Annie, witness names unfamiliar...looks like Philip Vokes and Mary Anne Brewer.  Groom's father stated as John Anderson , occupation Trumpet major RHA.

    John died 1898, hard times ensued.  While Mum in workhouse, children in orphanage, all reunited at later time.

    Have details of this line, but can't find any clues for sisters Margaret and Annie.  Or their parents for that matter. 

    May need to spend time in records out of India.

     Thanks for efforts.  awp

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Re: census look up 1881, 1891, 1901
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 April 10 00:58 BST (UK) »
The IGI has a Margaret Jane ANDERSON, born 17 Jan 1861 at Fyrabad, West Bengal, parents John and Eliza.

Ian C
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk