Barnsley exports to Finland

[Ebch]

They do for some years - see National Archives.  Good luck

[cathaldus]

I remember being in  Tampere,  on business, (not Weaving etc.!) in January 1983.  Very cold obviously.  Stayed in a nice Hotel,  everywhere was "triple glazed"  and all the external doors opened outwards.
Looking out of my window,  on the second floor,  I could see in the town square,  two teams of small children (maybe seven or eight years old) playing a hectic game of ice hockey,  a lovely sight and somewhat romantic, in a poetical sense.

Great country!

Bill

[brianz]

Hi Bill
          Thanks for the info, we are due to  go to Tampere in mid September for a bit of research so it should be warmer and then on to the Finnish National Archives in Helsinki.

[Ebch]

See that some Wilson & Longbottom machine and loom order books are available at Sheffield Archives - www.sheffield.gov.uk/archives. It is possible you could find some exports to Tampere there.
Also interesting, bearing in mind James Lee's 1841 address, is the name of W & L's foundry -  the Nelson Foundry.

[brianz]

Ebch
         Thanks I'll check that out I visit Sheffield on a regular basis.

Steve

[Jarmo Peltola]

James Lee and his wife Mary stayed at Tampere in the turn of 1850-1860. James probably worked as a Foreman in the Finlayson & Co's cotton mill, which was the biggest in the Nordic countries in that time. The Mill was a very modern, compared to any other mills in that time. Town was then small in 1860, some 3000 inhabitants. In the Mill. there worked 1 627 employees in 1860. The significance of the company was a quite a big.

I am writing history about the mills of Tampere, and I am very interested in James Lee's life before the Tampere period and after it. And of course I am interested in all British experts, who worked here during 1820-1930.

Jarmo

[brianz]

Hello Jarmo
                  Welcome to Rootschat. James Lee was a great Grandfather of mine and from what I have found was living in Tampare Finland between the dates 1859 and 1863. He had two children born in Tampere both of whom were christened there with Finnish godparents who we believe were needle manufacturers. Do you have any further info on John and his wife Mary?

Steve

[Jarmo Peltola]

John Thornley, born 17.7.1860, babtized 23.9.1860, Father M:r James Lee, wife Mary Lee
Mary Ellen, born  21.12.1861, babtized 5.1.1862, James Lee wife Mary Lee.

I tried to check the parish information for people, who moved in 1859, but I did not succeed yet. I check 1863, when they moved out, next week.

Do you know anything about their life before Tampere, and after it?

Jarmo

[brianz]

Thanks Jarmo
                     The family consisted of

Father  James Lee born abt 1827 Barnsley Yorkshire died abt Sept 1892 Barnsley Yorkshire
Mother Mary Lee nee  Thornley born abt 1829 Barnsley died abt Mar 1892 Barnsley
Married 16 Apr 1848 at St Georges Church Barnsley.

Children:-
Ann b abt 1850 Barnsley
William b abt Mar 1851 Barnsley
James b abt Sept 1856
John Thornley b 17 July 1860 Tampare Finland d abt Mar 1904 Sheffield Yorkshire
Mary Ellen b 21 Dec 1861 Tampare Finland d abt Dec 1941
Alice b abt Sept 1866 Barnsley
Margaret b abt 1867 Barnsley
Walter b abt Jun 1868 Barnsley

James the father in the 1851 Census was a Power loom Weaver living at Nelson St Barnsley with his family
1859 to 1863 he appears to have been in Finland ( Tampare)
1871 he was a Power Loom Over-looker living in Barnsley
and from abt 1881 he seems to have finished his days as a Brewers Traveller and Inn Keeper ( Keel Inn Barnsley)
I have been in touch with the Archives in Tampare and as four of the god parents of their children appear to be English it me be that a group of them went over in the first place.

One other question do you know if the Fins issue Birth certificates like we do and if so how do I go about obtaining some? I have found them in the HisKi project but that is all at the moment.

steve