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Offline HawkesFH

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Missing from SSDI
« on: Friday 09 April 10 10:35 BST (UK) »
Hi, could someone please advise on how to locate a marriages and deaths that probably took place in Jersey City, Hudson County, New Jersey in the first half of the 1900s?
Lillian (Lily) Broady born Warrington UK 1878 arrived in New Jersey to join her 'sister' Margaret Grounds (nee Broady) in 1904.  She returned to the UK for a year 1907-08 then went back , she is living on the 1910 census with margaret and bro-in-law Septimus Grounds in jersey City.  In 1920 and 1930 she is married to Irishman James (F) Galvan/Galvin, who arrived in the US in 1908.  There are no children with Lillian and James on any of the returns, in 1930, Septimus Grounds is also living with them as Margaret must have died between the 1920 and 1930 return.
Nothing close is coming up on the SSDI for either Margaret Grounds (b 1859 in Warrington Lancashire UK) or Lillian Galvin/Garvin.  Nor can I find the death of Septimus Grounds (b1862 Warrington UK).  I have found Septimus in some Jersey City trade directories as a conectioner, though he was at one time a carpenter.

I have no experience of locating US marriages and so if someone could point me towards the right area of research I would be grateful for the help and advice.

Thanks in anticipation

HawkesFH
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Buckingham: Hawkes; Haddock; Sills;
Cheshire: Broady; Ford; Hughes; Spencer; Johnson; Hewitt; Britland;Darlington; Wilkinson;Snelson;Kirkham; Percival
Lancashire: Ridgway (Chowbent); Dootson; Hope.
Yorkshire: Lumb; Normanton; Ainley; Trafford.
Lincolnshire: Trafford; Capps; Willey; Twidle; Bett;
Saxe-Coburg: Muller/Miller.

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Re: Missing from SSDI
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 April 10 10:45 BST (UK) »
Hi

The dates you mention look rather early for the SSDI, which overwhelmingly (as to 98%) covers deaths in the period from 1962 onwards: see http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/vital/ssdi/faq.aspx.  The system of Social Security registration did not even come into existence until the mid-1930s.

US vital records are organised on a county & state, rather than national, level, and ease of access to family history researchers varies widely from free online certificates available for some states to in-person research only for others.

For New Jersey vital records (of which I have no personal experience) the following link may be of assistance: http://www.state.nj.us/state/darm/links/webcat/queries/sehealt2.html.

Anna :)
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Re: Missing from SSDI
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 April 10 11:06 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much avm228,

that was a speedy and really helpful reply, it's only taken minutes to identify exactly which reels of microfilm I would need to search to find Lily and James's marriage in Hudson County!

I hadn't thought to research the history of the SSDI, lacking of me I admit!

I'm not going to rush to do a search in person as my next trip to the US is to see Garth Brooks at the Wynn Hotel in Las Vegas (hopefully this coming October) but it has set me on another promising mission!

thanks again

Hawkes FH
Middlesex: Hawkes; Hatton; Lee (gypsies); Vincent; Fenwick; Hale; Killingback;
Buckingham: Hawkes; Haddock; Sills;
Cheshire: Broady; Ford; Hughes; Spencer; Johnson; Hewitt; Britland;Darlington; Wilkinson;Snelson;Kirkham; Percival
Lancashire: Ridgway (Chowbent); Dootson; Hope.
Yorkshire: Lumb; Normanton; Ainley; Trafford.
Lincolnshire: Trafford; Capps; Willey; Twidle; Bett;
Saxe-Coburg: Muller/Miller.

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Re: Missing from SSDI
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 April 10 14:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks again avm228!!
I have had an email an hour ago from Jersey City Archives and they have sent details of the marriage, complete with both sets of parents details!  Also the death details of the bro-=in-law, his burual place and his will info!  Including the bequests and informant!

They are certainly on the ball! They have not charged for any of it either which is a completely delightful bonus!

thanks

Hawkes FH ;D
Middlesex: Hawkes; Hatton; Lee (gypsies); Vincent; Fenwick; Hale; Killingback;
Buckingham: Hawkes; Haddock; Sills;
Cheshire: Broady; Ford; Hughes; Spencer; Johnson; Hewitt; Britland;Darlington; Wilkinson;Snelson;Kirkham; Percival
Lancashire: Ridgway (Chowbent); Dootson; Hope.
Yorkshire: Lumb; Normanton; Ainley; Trafford.
Lincolnshire: Trafford; Capps; Willey; Twidle; Bett;
Saxe-Coburg: Muller/Miller.