Charlotte HARRIS b c 1813 Stalbridge Dorset

[allibaker]

this is interesting have u seen the 1851 for samuel and sarah?
living in stalybridge
samuel harris 75yrs retired farmer
sarah 77yrs wife
ann 51yrs unmarried daughter
fanny 11yrs grandaughter place of birth listed as london.(wonder if john and ann were in london in 1841 not dorset?
regards
alli

[MartinPom]

Charlotte's marriage Certificate of 17 April 1849 in Totnes shows her age as 34, ie born 1815, however, Census' from 1851 to 1891 show her birth year as 1813.
According to the Certificate, "Residence at the Time of Marriage": Holne
"Father's Name and Surname": John Harris.  "Rank or Profession of Father": Gentleman (the best that I can make of partly faded writing. It's not clear whether he was alive at the time of the Marriage.

I am beginning to think that she and her father may have been living in the Totnes/Holne area by 1841 and no longer in Stalbridge.
Martin

[Harris of Oz]

HI

Charlotte was the daughter of Samuel Harris and Sarah Light. Charlotte was born abt 20th june 1813 and married william Pomeroy. We descend from her brother Mark Light Harris. Samuel Harris was born 27/12/1774 in Stalbridge and married Sarah light dtr of Mark Light and Mary on 11/4/1796 in Lyndlinch Dorset. Samuel was the son of  George Harris and Mary Duffet. His siblings were Jenny born abt 22/5/1766, Thomas born abt 31/12/1767, Phillip born 1771, George born abt 20/5/1775, Daniel born abt 27/4/1779 and Ann 11/5/1772. George and Mary were married in Stalbridge on 15/7/ 1765. Mary was the daughter of John Duffett and Tamar Jeanes. George was the son of George Harris born abt 8/7/1714 and Mary Beesley born 1717. His siblings were Jenny born 9/7/ 1743, Thomas b 1746, Samuel b 12/7/ 1748, Mary 12/3/1749. This George { 1714} was the son of James Harris and Melior Randal. James was born 1683 Stalbridge and died abt 1730. Melior was born abt 1687 in Stlabridge and died therein 1756. They had George and William [ 9/3/1707],Betty [ 28/6/1711] , James [ 3/5/ 1716] Hannah [ 25/6/1723], Joseph [ 19/6/1725],Samuel [ 20/1/1729] and ann [ 1736]. We have not been able to go back further but have identified a Haddy harris in the doomsday Book from Dorset which may well be the ancestor of this family line.

We have a family line that goes to South Africa a few generations on. Would be keen to swap info.

[Harris of Oz]

The Fanny Harris mentioned is the daughter of Lucy Harris who is the duaghter of Samuel Harris and sarah Light. Fanny I believe was born abt 1840 in London . She is mentioend as living with my husbands great great grandad William Henry Harris in the 1861 english census. My notes indicate that Fanny, Agnes and William Henry their cousin were living with their aunt Ann Harris a pastry cook and confectioner in 1861 at 114 High St Stalbridge.
I do not have birth dates for Fanny or Agnes. Ann was listed as married in 1861 but I cannot find a husband for her.

[MartinPom]

Hi
Thanks for the info. I am aware of the family of Samuel and Sara Harris including Charlotte (bap 20 Aug 1813).
The marriage Certificate for my gr gr grandparents, Charlotte Harris and William Pomeroy in 1849, however, shows Charlotte's father's name as John Harris. So I'm not sure whether "your" Charlotte is the same person as "my" Charlotte.

I am in the process of following up on a John Harris (b Sherbone, Dorset in 1783 who married Ann Collard of Hillfarrance, Sommerset on 24 April 1810 in Hillfarrance, near Taunton. They apparently lived in Stalbridge and had 3 daughters, Jane (b 1811), Charlotte (b 1813) and Selina (b 1819). This investigation is in the early stages, so I'm not able to confirm these details yet.

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Martin Pomeroy

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[MartinPom]

Hi to "Harris of Oz"
In regard to Fanny Harris, in the 1841 Census for High St, Stalbridge:
Jane Harris         30 Confectioner
Charlotte Harris 25 Confectioner
Fanny Harris        2

Further the 1851 Census shows Ann (51), her parents, Samuel (75) and Sarah (77) living at the same address in Stalbridge with Fanny (11).

Could this Fanny be the daughter of Lucy Harris, born in London and who was living with her Aunt Ann - "Pastry Cook and Confectioner" at 114 High St, Stalbridge in the 1861 Census?
If so, what would the relationship be between Ann. Charlotte, Jane and Fanny?

Regards
Martin

[denysenz]

Hi Harris of Oz, I am researching my Harris ancestry.my research has led me to believe that my ggggrandfather was Mark Light Harris.My ggrandfather was Edwin Harris son of Samuel Harris who I think was the son of Mark.Samuel emigrated to NZ in 1857 with his wife Amelia , daughter Jessie and son Edwin.He was 28 at this time  making his birth date 1829.does this tally with your research or am I totally on the wrong track?

[Harris of Oz]

Hi denysenz

Mark Light Harris was born 21/3/1797 in Stalbridge Dorset to Samuel Harris and Sarah Light. The Lights are a family from Lydlinch and go back many generations. Mark was a dairyman and went to london with his younger brothern Edward Richard. Mark and Sarah had 3 children William Henry Harris born 1838 Paddington who is my husbands gg grandad, Samuel Harris born 1828 Haverfield Middlesex and Elizabeth jane born abt 1843 in Paddington. Elizabeth jane married Barnard Boddy Deane who was considerably older than she was on 2/12/1867 at All Saints Paddington Westminster. They had 4 children Robert Deane b 1859, Ernest F 1861, Bernard M 1869 and Frederick G 1875. William Henry married Charlotte Winckler and they had 5 children frank believed to have died in infancy, Charles William born 1862, Ellen born 1866. Herbert henry born 1867 and Walter born 1870. Charlotte died in 1870 of TB and William Henry and his son Walter emigrated to Australia between 1883-1885. I do not have any further information on Samuel but I have a lot on Mark light Harris family .

I would be happy to send you the full gedcom which goes back to 1683 if you go to the personal message sectoin I will list my email for you.

I would love to fill in the blanks on Samuel.

[Harris of Oz]

Hi denysenz

Have posted into messages my email address but you will need to have put 3 or moessages on this site before it will work otherwise you can go to ancestry and look up mark light harris and post a message to me that way.

Viv