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Re: Webb
« Reply #9 on: Friday 09 April 10 09:52 BST (UK) »
That makes it harder if they can change names.

Agnes Harper was born in Hereford I think. I was going to look there for the marriage. but maybe she ran away to join the circus!!!

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 09 April 10 10:58 BST (UK) »
I couldnt find a marriage of a William Webb to an Agnes Harper, so either his real name was one of those on the marriage that Suttontrust found, or they never actually married.
If William Webb was a stage name that he used at that particular time, or a name he used when with Agnes (other thread says he left her) and there are no other records that can be found in that name (which seems to be the case) then it is going to be very difficult to find out anything more about him, as we dont know what name(s) he used at other times.
We dont know if he was a actor performing at a theatre in a stage play, or something far more casual of a travelling kind. It is really pointless (though fun!) to try and guess anything.

The only leads at present, as I see it, are this census entry,  the children's births, and that possible marriage of an Agnes Harper that was found.

So, if you want to explore every angle before giving this up as a lost cause, they are all that can be pursued.

First the census - that doesnt give us a lot to pursue. IF he was truthful about his age and place of birth then we can see if there are any 30 yr old actors born Beverly in 1881, for example, as a next step.
Then the children - what does Margaret's birth cert say? Is dad described as an actor then? Is mother Webb nee Harper, no other names? Does address give any clues as to what sort of place they were at? et etc
Then there is Violet, we could look for her and see if her cert brings any clues.

And of course there is 1911, have you found Margaret on there? Or William or Agnes? that would probably be the best next move for you.

I am doubtful you will get anywhere with this, but you really never know. That's the thing with this sort of research, you just never know where or when a lead will take you to the vital piece of info that makes it all fall into place,. Often you can follow hundreds without getting anywhere, but personally I never give up, and that has paid its dividends on occasions!

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Re: Webb
« Reply #11 on: Friday 09 April 10 12:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks , the birth cert says Actor (Comedian), Margaret was born at 66 Waterloo Road Cowpen.
I will do some hunting on the 1911 censes.

Its fun. I think I like the romantic run away with the handsome actor angle.
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Re: Webb
« Reply #12 on: Friday 09 April 10 12:17 BST (UK) »
Going back to the marriage Suttontrust found
The names on the page are:
Richard Wilson Gibson
Arthur Rob Scoulding
Mary Tuck
Agnes Harper

now I can see  a Richard and Mary Wilson, residing in Tynemouth Reg Distr in 1901 with eldest child age 3 (Rg13 4808 86 6) who I reckon might be the Richard and Mary.
So that leaves Arthur Scoulding marrying the Agnes.
I cant any couple of that name in 1901, though I guess Scoulding is susceptable to mistranscrition! I have tried with no surname, just looking at Arthur/Agnes couples!

This doesnt get us very far, only that Arthur Rob Scoulding could still be William Webb, and that Richard Wilson Gibson is less likely to be.

modified to add : just to follow up I cant see Arthur anywhere else, so I do wonder, just wonder, if he could be 'our' William!
If you are feeling rich, the marriage cert might reveal if Arthur was an actor/comedian/similar
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Re: Webb
« Reply #13 on: Monday 12 April 10 00:17 BST (UK) »
Re: Arthur Rob Scoulding

I may be jumping in the deep end here as I do not know the message trail. My records show that this man was born Arthur Robert Scolding 29-Nov-1873 in Tivetshall and shows in most records as Arthur Robert Skoulding. I can be contacted at dave.scoulding@shaw.ca.

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Re: Webb
« Reply #14 on: Monday 12 April 10 11:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you Divads

OK, so that rules out Arthur - I see him now on 1901 with wife Agnes and small son John. He is a coal miner. RG13 4810 160 2.

So I think that rules out the marriage that was found.

Unless 1911 gives any more clues, or Violet's birth and death can be pinpointed and brings a clue (I did look but there are several Violet Webb's dying in infancy, and we have no idea where it might have been)  then I think you are stuck for now.



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DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Webb Complete
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 13 April 10 07:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone. I think I mark this complete until I get another angle.
Boylan,Budd,Hartill,Dibble,Buchanan, Abbot,Harper
Webb (actor from 1861 in england),