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Re: WW1 Medal Record Hugh B Barlow
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 08 February 11 18:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ady,

Thanks you for that information.  Well there is another twist now, the medals do not belong to Reginald or Hugh but their brother Jeffrey.  They are mounted in a case and very difficult to read but at last found a magnifying glass and made out the regt. no.   Jeffrey was also in the R.A.   Also he has a short Service record.  Sadly the records for his brothers have not survivied .

I think my friends are going to find this all very interesting.

Thanks for all the help.

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 08 February 11 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Latin motto:  UBIQUE is the battle honour meaning 'everywhere'.
QUO FAS ET GLORIA DUCUNT is the motto - 'where right and glory lead'.
Both are on the cap badge [with very few exceptions].
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 08 February 11 21:36 GMT (UK) »
I'd put the pic at 1917/18...He has tidied up his collar and added a hook and eye to fasten it...Stiff caps came back in the latter years to look a bit smart again after the Gor Blimey and the Trench Cap...
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Re: WW1 Medal Record Hugh B Barlow
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 08 February 11 21:52 GMT (UK) »
I have now been given a picture of Hugh in uniform, his discharge certificate dated 23rd September 1919 and a very nice tapestry with his medals which he made whilst recovering from his wounds in a hospital in Liverpool.

His family would like to know more about the Northumberland Fusiliers role in WW1.  However, on looking at his cap badge when I type in his regiment the badge shown does not look like the one in the photograph.  Could someone please help to identify it please.


Am I right in thinking this photograph was taken early on in the war.  Someone told me that the brow bands on the caps had to be amended as when they reflected they made a target for the enemy.  Hugh's cap band seems to be an early one to me.  Also his amunition belt looks as if it might be made of leather - again something that was altered during the war to canvas.

I have not managed to visit Kew yet to consult the Silver War Badge Rolls mentioned by Phil, so do not know when he enrolled.


Thank you

Cathy

I'm afraid you have been told a couple of inaccurate tales there... :o ;)

Buttons and badges, on active service were allowed to dull so as not to draw fire. As for the chinstrap, ummm no...they just became unpolished due to the extingencies of war. For photos, home service and parades, they polished up!

The 1903 ptn leather ammunition bandolier was used by mounted troops into WW2. True, canvas ones did appear, but for the infantry, not mounted troops...

As for the SWB rolls, they will tell you when he was invalided out, not when he attested (signed up). There should also be a large certificate that came with the SWB as well

Oh and the white lanyard apparently moved from the right arm to the left later in the war for the RA
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Re: WW1 Medal Record Hugh B Barlow
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 08 February 11 23:22 GMT (UK) »
The actual Medal Roll  book for his campaign medals will give date of Enlistment

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Re: WW1 Medal Record Hugh B Barlow
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 09 February 11 10:44 GMT (UK) »
Ady, Ainslie and Scrimnet thank you all very much for your help in unraveling these records I now have the medal record for Jeffrey Barlow.

Corps RFA Rank Gnr Reg No. 91289
X with4 dots Bdr.

Medals X 4 dots
Victory RFA/228B page 25562
British       "                     "
15 Star RFA/9A2 page 6602

Theatre of War first served in (3)  Egypt
Date of entry thereof 19.07.1915

On the rim of the medals it reads:- 91289 BMBR J. Barlow RA

Am I right in assuming that R F A stands for Royal Field Artillery?

What is the difference between the R F A and the R A?

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Re: WW1 Medal Record Hugh B Barlow
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 09 February 11 10:59 GMT (UK) »

Cathy
Yes RFA Royal field Artillery :)
Found this online which may give the answer.

Ady


On 1 July 1899, the Royal Artillery was divided into three groups: the Royal Horse Artillery of 21 batteries and the Royal Field Artillery of 95 batteries comprised one group, while the coastal defence, mountain, siege and heavy batteries were split off into another group named the Royal Garrison Artillery of 91 companies. The third group continued to be titled simply Royal Artillery, and was responsible for ammunition storage and supply.
Lowe(Lower Gornall-Castleford)
Blackburn (Castleford)
Sidwell(Ledsham)
Fairburn(Hartshead)
Wood(Liversedge)
Tallon (Whittington Lancs/Hartshead West Yorkshire)

Researching all Great War soldiers from the Spen Valley of West Yorkshire Especially lads from the Cleckheaton Company of 1/4th West Riding Regiment.

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 09 February 11 11:05 GMT (UK) »
During the First World War the Royal Artillery was made up of the Royal Horse Artillery, Royal Field Artillery and Royal Garrison Artillery.  You can read more about them on this site:
http://www.1914-1918.net/

On the MIC, the x with dots is a form of asterisk, used for linking the entries for rank and the awards.

Very pleased you have been able to sort out your Barlows.

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Re: WW1 Medal Record Hugh B Barlow
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 09 February 11 15:38 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Ady and Ainslie for your further help.  A very interesting and informative site.

Cathy :D
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