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Henry Farrel
« on: Wednesday 07 April 10 03:35 BST (UK) »
Can anybody help. I'm looking for a Henry Farrell.  In 1832 he has a daughter Frances born in Louth, Lincs.  When Frances marries in 1860 (Rodman) Henry is shown on the certificate as dead.  Can't locate him or Frances on any census.


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Re: Henry Farrel
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 April 10 04:25 BST (UK) »
Hello

Frances could have been known has Fanny!

1841 H0107/639/15 folio 23 page 10  Louth Lincolnshire

Cistern Gate

Ann Farrell age 40 all born In county
Edward Pawson? age 20
James Farrell age 14 appr Joiner
Charles Farrell age 10
Henry Farrell age 6
Fanny Farrell age 9


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Re: Henry Farrel
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 April 10 07:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Pam
Yes I saw that one and I think it is probably the right one but I can't find the father.  LDS  lists aFrances to a Ann and Michael Farrell however I have a marriage certificate for a Frances Farrell (born Louth 1832) with father Henry.  most confusing.

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Re: Henry Farrel
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 April 10 08:15 BST (UK) »
Marriage 17 Oct 1825 at Louth
Michael FARRELL to Ann PAWSON

I doubt Fanny ever knew her father-
Burial
14 Dec 1833 at Louth, Michael FARRELL (49)
21 Oct 1847, Ann FARRELL (56)
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Re: Henry Farrel
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 April 10 08:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks Geoff
I noticed that on the 1841 census there is a Ann farrell with her children who include Fanny, and also an Edward Pawson age 20. However there is listed a Henry Farrell age 6 which means he was born circa 1835 so if Michael died in 1833 who is the father of Henry.

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Re: Henry Farrel
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 April 10 09:00 BST (UK) »
Henry was christened just a year after Michael's death http://tinyurl.com/yzoko3t

Interesting middle name.  Although I suspect it's a bad transcription of something else.

I should add that the National Burial Index has no Henry FARRELL in Lincs in the relevant period.
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Re: Henry Farrel
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 April 10 13:22 BST (UK) »
Here are some them in 1851;

1851 Census
Prospect Court.
Louth, Lincolnshire
HO107/2111/291/12

Edward PAWSON, 31, Head, Mar, bricklayer (journeyman) born Louth
Hannah, 29, Wife, Mar, born Binbrook
Henrietta, 11, Daughter, born Louth
Charles FARRELL, 21, Brother in law, Unm, Groom, born Louth
Henry FARRELL, 16, Brother in law, Unm, Scholar, born Louth
+ 4 Humberstons as visitors including a Fanny aged 21

So Edward Pawson was staying with the Farrells in 1841

Very complicated family!
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Henry Farrel
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 April 10 13:39 BST (UK) »

So Edward Pawson was staying with the Farrells in 1841

That was why I chose the 1825 marriage :) I presumed he was Ann's son.

Marriage 25 Dec 1850 Louth
Edward PAWSON (no father) to Hannah ROWSON (dau of John)
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Re: Henry Farrel
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 07 April 10 13:46 BST (UK) »
Well I was a bit slower Geoff ;D
Yes agree Marriage never took place til 1850. But where is Henrietta from 1851 Census in 1841 then. A daughter of Hannah Rowson?
I had already typed below so we are on the same page.

There are a couple of Trees that have come to the conclusion from the 1851 Census that Hannah was nee Farrell.
I dont think so .
I think that Charles and Henry are half brothers of Edward Pawson
That works with Michael and Ann marrying 1825 that Geoff E found

As Frances/Fanny would never have known her Father well she may have misnamed him on her Marriage Cert.
She also got around in 1851 she seems to be a Servant in Hull, Yorks
HO107/2363/965/1 and then marries Joseph RODMAN in Pancras Sept 1860 Reg.
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)