Author Topic: Powell family in Luzerne / Freeland Pennsylvania  (Read 19410 times)

Offline dashap

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 33
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Powell family in Luzerne / Freeland Pennsylvania
« Reply #63 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 12:15 BST (UK) »
Your find in the 1870 census looks very interesting.  John seems to have made changing his age an art form over the years. Many thanks for finding this piece of the jig saw puzzle.

Looking back through my notes from the library there is a book  by Norm & Peggy Drasher, Tombstone Inscriptions Luzerne County Pennsylvania Part IV names and dates transcribed from the Freeland Cemetery p92 Lewis Annie 1836 - 1914 wife of James Lewis. p117 James Lewis 1838-1916, Martha Lewis 1883-1916 and Amelia Lewis 1842-1913. 

 I also have another note Annie Lewis nee Powell died April 15, 1914 buried Freeland Cemetery.
However I haven't had much luck finding James and Annie Lewis nee Powell!

It gets even more confusing when Mary Ann Powell's daughter Mary Ann Jones marries Arthur Lewis.

I thought perhaps the Annie Lewis was the one listed with Carrie and John as 2 of her 7 surviving children in the 1900 Census, but that doesn't fit with James dying in 1916.

I think I need some sleep, my brain just isn't making sense of this at present!!

Dash  ???


Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 60,406
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: Powell family in Luzerne / Freeland Pennsylvania
« Reply #64 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 13:43 BST (UK) »
This was James A Lewis - son of Arthur and Mary born 1892 Pennsylvania.

1920 Steubenville Ward 2, Jefferson, Ohio James was born March 1892 according to the 1900 Census.

James A Lewis 28 Parents Born Wales. Bricklayer at steel mill.
Daisy A Lewis 27 Born Ohio. Parents Germany
Elizabeth M Lewis 7 Born Ohio

1930 Census Steubenville, Jefferson, Ohio


Daisy age 30 is a roomer iand Divorced - a sales lady in Department. Store.

According to WW1 Draft June 5th 1917. Issued Jefferson. Ohio.

James ANDREW Lewis born March 31st 1891. (Sometimes these records are out on date by exactly 1 year - don't know why) Homestead. Pennsylvania. Occupation:- Bricklayer. La Belle Ironworks. Stebenville. Ohio. Lived at 503 Lawson Street. Stebenville. Ohio. Married wife and child.

Possible Ohio Deaths

James A Lewis. Born 1891. Steubensille. Jefferson. Ohio. Died at home, age 71 years. Autopsy:- Yes, not used for certification. Marital Status:- Divorced.
 
 
 
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 60,406
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: Powell family in Luzerne / Freeland Pennsylvania
« Reply #65 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 14:38 BST (UK) »
Could this be Arthur Lewis - Birth Date out again ?



http://www.rootschat.com/links/08hx/

Arthur Lewis born 12 Jan 1867 to Arthur Lewis. Montgomery. Wales. and Matilda Edwards of Wales. Spouses Name:- Mary Ann Jones. Occupation:- Masonary Superintendant.

And Mary Ann Jones/Lewis


http://www.rootschat.com/links/08hy/

Mary Ann born 31 July 1868 Died 29 April 1946. Steubenville,Ohio. Father John Jones Mother Mary Ann Powell.
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 60,406
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: Powell family in Luzerne / Freeland Pennsylvania
« Reply #66 on: Tuesday 20 April 10 15:02 BST (UK) »
This was the 1930 Steubenville, Jefferson, Ohio (had'nt realised I'd missed this one)


Arthur A Lewis 63 Married at 24 years. Owns own home $8000. Bricklayer in steel mill. Immigrated 1880
Mary A Lewis 60 Immigrated 1887
Mary P Lewis 25 Stenograph at Met Office.
 
 
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada


Offline *Sandra*

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 60,406
  • Marie Curie
    • View Profile
Re: Powell family in Luzerne / Freeland Pennsylvania
« Reply #67 on: Saturday 24 April 10 13:45 BST (UK) »
Hello Dash.

We are still looking for Census information for James Lewis born about 1834 Wales and Annie (nee Powell) Lewis born about 1837 Wales who immigrated abt 1854. (Only have them in 1900 at the moment)

It may be worth you trying to get in touch with the owner of anc..try tree referred to in reply 9. They have a James Lewis and Ann Powell listed as the family I picked up in reply 6/7/8/9


Is there a link between James Lewis 1834 Wales  and Arthur Lewis 1861 Wales ?

Is there a link between Owen Ellis and Richard Ellis to the Powell family ?

Clutching at straws to try and get you further information. There is someone who will do marriage license look ups in Allegheny and if you are looking for something else then please ask they may assist (3rd name on list)  Also first name on the list says would look ups for obituaries.  Could this be worth a try to see if you can get the death record for John Henry Jones and Jean/Joan Davies/Jones ? The last sighting was the 1910 Census  ???

and:

James W Jones who we last saw as a widow in 1920 with daughter Addie/Adelaide and who you think died in 1925
His wife Ellen Morris/Jones who we last saw in 1910 Allegheny and who you think died in 1917. Both buried Homestead Cemetery.


http://www.rootschat.com/links/08j4/

An update so that you can see where I am with the search, looking for the link between Ellis/Lewis and Powell but nothing yet.  Reply 61 with Owen Ellis, I have tracked them back to 1860 Pennsylvania and 1851 Wales Census. (Will post below - so that you can see them) Only 2 options for a marriage for Owen and Emma that I can see - the first one Owen Ellis to Emma Jones would be March 1842 Bangor (so again that would be back in North Wales) and the second Owen Ellis to Emmett Martell June 1843 Narbeth. Wales. (Narbeth is in a direct line with Merthyr as the crow flys but seems to be 74 miles from Merthyr)
The second looks the best option bearing in mind where Owen was born  ??? and that the spelling of his wife is Ernet on the 1851 Census  ??? Possible option of Owen on the 1841 census but I need to spend more time looking into that option. Likewise with Emmett Martell, I can find and Elizabeth, Margaret and Mary but no Emmet/Emma and the IGI for Narbeth isn't covering 1820  ???  The passenger lists are not throwing up anything for Owen, Emmett/Emma and Martha which is between 1851/1856  ???

On the 1871 Census with John and Mary Powell - Richard Lewis age 23 years - 5 BMD records covering March 1846 -June 1848 for Richard Lewis in Merthyr Tydfil which isn't helping a search down that line. No immigration record coming to light for him either.

Arthur Lewis 1861 Wales married to Mary Ann Jones  (daughter of John Jones  and Mary Ann Powell - sister of John Powell) It will be difficult to track John Jones back to Wales without further information - Jones is quite a prolific surname in Wales.
1871 Census for Builth, Brecknockshire, Wales would throw up an option for him (but sadly no Richard in that household) and since he immigrated later than the Powells, its not definite he came from Glamorgan.  Think we have covered the family of Arthur and Mary Ann and established the death dates for them.

Annie Powell (sister of John Powell born abt 1837) married to James Lewis, no other sightings in Poughkeepsie. New York, other than the 1900 Census showing just the two of them. How do you know they lived in Poughkeepsie ?  ??? No immigration record for them either. So lots of different avenue's tried and no connections.   ???

These are the 2 census that refer to Owen Ellis

1850 Wales Census

Owen Ellis 31 Born Llanllyfni, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Ernet Ellis 30 Born Nuntoion, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Martha Ellis 4 Born Llanginog, Glamorgan, Wales
 
 



1860 Hazle, Luzerne, Pennsylvania

Owen Ellis 40 Born Wales
Emma Ellis 40 Born Wales
Martha Ellis 13 Born Wales
David Ellis 3 Born Pennsylvania.
Ellis J Ellis 1

Probably best to keep all the information in one place for the moment  so that others can see the relationships between the families otherwise things get duplicated.  Hope I have covered everyone.  ???

If I have made any mistake with these relationships, perhaps you can let me know so that we can correct. It does get quite complicated and involved when the names are the same or similar.  ???




 
 
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner"

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline dashap

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 33
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Powell family in Luzerne / Freeland Pennsylvania
« Reply #68 on: Sunday 25 April 10 13:08 BST (UK) »
Yes I had looked at that Lewis tree, however Annie' parents were incorrect and her death date was out as well. 
I've tried  to contact several people with the 1851 census entry for John and Mary Powell as a source in their family trees on Ancestry, but so far no replies.
I think Richard Lewis could have known the Powell family in Merthyr Tydfil, as there is a Richard living nearby to them, who fits..... but there are so many Jones, Lewis, Marys, Johns and James it's a real guessing game without concrete evidence.

I will follow up tomorrow with your suggestion about the marriage license look ups.

Till then, Dash

Offline dashap

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 33
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Powell family in Luzerne / Freeland Pennsylvania
« Reply #69 on: Monday 26 April 10 00:46 BST (UK) »
Note your Post 30 Munhall.

From p975 of Genealogical & Personal History of Western Pennsylvania Vol 2

"Mr Jones ( James) built himself a handsome residence of buff brick on Margaret Street Munhall as well as another house in the immediate vicinity"  :)

1871 Census for Wales
Jones John 36
Jones Mary Ann 32
Jones John Henry 12
Jones James 7
Mary Ann 1
Powell William James 30

living Hill Street Bedwelty, Rhymney

William James Powell is listed as a visitor, but I'm pretty sure he is Mary Ann Jones nee Powell's brother as the age is correct.

Offline dashap

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 33
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Powell family in Luzerne / Freeland Pennsylvania
« Reply #70 on: Monday 26 April 10 03:41 BST (UK) »
1861 Census Wales


Jones John  27 iron rougher born Clyro Radnorshire
Jones Mary Ann 22  born Llanarth Radnorshire
Jones John 2 born Gellgaie Glamorganshire

living at 91 Tredegar Rd Bedwelty Rumney

in 1871 John senior gives the same birthplace
Mary Ann gives Builth ( which is correct)
and John Henry Gellygear  (correct spelling today Gelligaer)
perhaps Mary Ann's brother William James Powell who was also born in Builth reminded her in 1871 that she too was born in Builth, not Llanarth as she said 10 years earlier. ??? ???

Offline dashap

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 33
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Powell family in Luzerne / Freeland Pennsylvania
« Reply #71 on: Monday 26 April 10 03:54 BST (UK) »
Death of John Jones

According to G & P History of W Penn John Jones died in Wales at the age of 47, having been born in 1830.

BDM entry Mar Q 1877 John Jones aged 47 Bedwelty 11a 83  would be a possibility.

As 1881 Census for Wales has

Jones Mary A Widow 42  born Radnorshire (no town on original)
Jones John H son  22 platelayer born Glamorgan
Jones  James son 17 mason born Rhymney
Jones Mary A 11  born Rhymney

at 9 Hill Street Bedwelty