Seeking information on William Cross b. St. James, Westminster abt 1801 and his

[Valda]

Hi

William Cross' age on the 1851 census gives his birth year as circa 1800/01. You have to do quite a bit of 'shoe horning' to get the baptism in Shadwell in 1794, 6 years earlier to fit. Have you any evidence to say the 1851 census age was incorrect?

By tradition marriages take place in the bride's parish. Calling banns was an expensive business and often one of the couple would move for the three weeks residency needed before the marriage to avoid the cost of paying to have the banns called in two churches. The evidence definitely shows Hannah came from the 'east end'. There is absolutely no evidence as yet that William did.

On the 1851 census William gives Westminster as his birthplace. Robert Cross' birthplace is given as Marylebone circa 1804. The evidence therefore points (but not proven) that the Crosses came from the Westminster/Marylebone area. The likely baptism on the IGI for Robert either places him as a son of Robert and Mary or possibly William and Mary. Marylebone baptisms are on the IGI, fewer Westminster parishes are covered by the IGI.

Are you now eliminating the evidence of the connection of Robert Cross his parentage and marriage to Elizabeth Bay Moody? Do you now think there is no connection between Robert and William, or if there was not one of brothers despite that both were Bootmakers?


Regards

Valda

[essexdavid]

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Both are shown as "of this parish" and witnesses were W Gillott, what looks like Truth scholar but may be Truth or Ruth Scholey & Ian Thurley

Having found that one of the witnesses to my gt gt  gt grandparent's marriage. James Heath to Elizabeth Flint, in 1832 at St Paul's Shadwell, London was a "Truth Scholey", the above post came up when I did a search on the name, it being rather unusual.
Truth was a schoolmaster in Shadwell and was married at least twice first to Elizabeth then Susannah. He appears numerous times as a witness to marriages at St Paul's over quite a long period  and Probate of his will shows that he had been the Parish Clerk