SELWYN - Marriage 1825 - Lea

[Just Kia]

Please could someone possibly look up the marriage of James SELWYN to Rachel 01 Oct 1825 in Saint John, Lea, Hereford.
IGI has both of their surnames as SELWYN and I am wondering if this is actually correct.

[Chilis]

Looked at the Herefordshire Family History Society's  Marriage Index 1538-1837 and that confirms the SELWYN surname for both bride and groom

[trish1120]

Hi Kia
It may have been a second marriage for one or both of them.

1861 Census James Selwyn Snr, Dealer, born 1784, Westbury upon Severn, Glous is living with his Daughter Mary Hill, born 1828, Westbury, Glous.
James Jnr age 30, Carpenter, born c 1830, Ross, Hereford is living there too.
RG9/2134/59/4

Therefore James would have been about 35 at Marriage to Rachel.

[trish1120]

Want to get more confused
Found a Tree;
James SELWYN born c 1783, parents, Samuel SELWYN and Deborah GOUGH
Married 1
Rachel PLAYSTED, parents Richard Playsted, died 1809 and Rachel SELWYN, her parents, Samuel and Rachel
Married 2
Rachel SELWYN 1787, parents John Selwyn and Mary PLAYSTED
Children;
MARY, 1826-1920, married John Rowland HILL
JAMES, 1829


1851 Census
Cottage,
Huntley, Glous
HO107/1959/561/14
James SELWYN, 67, Head, Mar, Cattle Dealer, born Westbury, Glous
Rachael, 65, Wife, Mar, born Westbury, Glous
James, 31, Son, Unm, Carpenter/Journeyman, born Ross, Hereford
William Selwyn, 68, Lodger, W, Millhand/Foreman, born Westbury, Glous

Marriage, submitted IGI;
William SELWYN/Rachel PLAYSTED, 13 June 1809, Caerwent, Monmouth

Christenings/IGI
James SELWYN, 13 December 1829, Brampton Abbotts, Hereford
Parents, JAMES and RACHEL ( Extracted)
Mary SELWIN, 21 January 1827, Independant-NC, Little Dean, Glous
Parents, JAMES and RACHAEL ( Extracted)

RACHEL SELWYN, 10 June 1787, Westbury on Severn, Glous
Parents, JOHN and MARY ( Extacted) ( First child on batch born c 1772)
Submitted Marriage JOHN/RACHEL, 24 April 1771, Westbury, Glous

Trish

[Just Kia]

Thank you Chilis for the look-up.
Trish - great detective work.
The connection here is through Mary SELWYN and James Rowland HILL - 3 of their daughters (Catherine, Hannah and Alice) married 3 WIMBUSH brothers (Henry, Leoni and John).

Wow - the Selwyn/Playstead tree sure gets confusing.
Both of the Rachels that James married were his 1st cousins and also 1st cousin to each other! James' father (Samuel), Rachel S' father (John) and Rachel P's mother (Rachel) all being siblings
The grand-daughter (Catherine) of James' sister (Rachel) then married the son (James) of James and Rachel S

Good grief I think that's my brain scrambled for the weekend.

[trish1120]

I wish you luck
I'm just glad its not my family or I would have gone crazy by now!

Trish

[marktod]

Here is James Selwyn the younger, son of James and Rachel:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41746676@N05/4414512974/sizes/o/


... and here is his sister Mary Selwyn, married surname Mary Hill.  Lived in five reigns ((1826-1920), including all of Victoria's and two on each side:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41746676@N05/4548605044/sizes/o/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41746676@N05/4320472024/sizes/o/

[Just Kia]

Thank you for posting these, Mark.
Lovely to see and to put a face to a name.

[trish1120]

I agree