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Re: Mills from Rathdrum Parish
« Reply #18 on: Monday 09 June 14 21:06 BST (UK) »
Hi,
My family of Mills are from the Derrylossary area of Wicklow, near Roundwood and Laragh. They were brothers Michael, Matthew, John, Joseph and Samuel and their father was John Mills b. 1789.

Do these names appear familiar to anyone?

Unfortunately, the parish records for Derrylossary were destroyed so I have no exact baptism dates for Johns' sons but they were born in the 1820's.

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Ann Marie

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Re: Mills from Rathdrum Parish
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 11 June 14 01:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Ann Marie,
I hope you are well. I am very thankful for your earlier assistance. I know we have a connection through the Mills line and perhaps another connection through my 4th great grandparents Abraham Emerson Heatly/Heatley b 1772 d 1804 in co Wicklow who married Christina Byrne in 1790 at Derrylossary. One of their sons also Abraham Emerson Heatly/Heatley b 1798 d 1853 married Sophia Dorothea Heatley a cousin in 1824, my 3rd great grandparents.
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Lynar: Dublin/Wicklow
Fawcett: Dublin
Mills, Mills King: Dublin
Semple: Dublin
Exshaw: Dublin
Duggan: Dublin
Heatley: Bray
Sparks: Greenwich London
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Re: Mills from Rathdrum Parish
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 11 June 14 12:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Ion,

This is a different Ann Marie. I see earlier posts by Ann Marie Byrne but I am a 'new' Ann Marie looking for a connection with any posts already made?

Thanks for getting in touch though and hopefully someone can see a connection with my family and theirs.

Regards,

Ann Marie

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Re: Mills from Rathdrum Parish
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 12 August 14 10:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Ion, Ann Marie,

Sorry i am only seeing this post now. unfortunately i couldnt find any connection between Ann Marie's Mills and our Mills they dont seem to have the same names carried down through generations which usually links families. Maybe its a lot further back then we have records for.

Nice to talk again
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Wilson: Kirkoswald, Scotland and Dublin
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lyons: Hendrick Street and Brunswick Street,Dublin
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Byrne: Mercer Street, Dublin
Mills: Dublin, Wicklow
Higgins: Dublin
Gray: Aryshire, Scotland
Mills King, Wicklow and Dublin
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Re: Mills from Rathdrum Parish
« Reply #22 on: Monday 14 October 24 07:15 BST (UK) »
I hope I'm okay reply to this thread a decade later since it's the exact topic I'm curious about.

It's a long shot if anyone knows anything, but I'm trying to find more information on my 3rd-great grandfather William Mills, now that I've finally confirmed he is who I thought he was. He was tried in Wexford around February 1843 for theft from his employer and sentenced to 7 years transportation to Tasmania aboard the "Orator". Before the journey he was imprisoned in Kilmainham and was apparently only 15. He died in Hobart in 1893 and later in life his reported age bounces all over the place, either due to uncertainly, carelessness or attempting to hide his criminal past as some did. His early records around imprisonment and transport were fairly consistent, putting him as being born around late 1827 or so. The convict indent says his native place is Wicklow, and I believe from news articles he was arrested wandering around Newtown Mount Kennedy.

He was Protestant originally but he became Catholic in Tasmania and married twice; his first wife my 3rd-great grandmother was Catherine Dunn who died young, and his second wife was Mary Healey/Haley. The children he had with Catherine were four boys, in order of birth Edward, John, William and Walter. John was Catherine's father's name, so I'm inclined to think William's father's name was probably Edward. Also according to the indent William lists no parents but does list siblings: one brother John and four sisters Mary, Ann, Emma Maria and Betty. Emma and Maria are underlined together, so without commas I'm assuming that's a single name.

So why Rathdrum specifically?
For a start there seemed to be quite a few Mills protestants there, or at least where there's surviving records.
Additionally, William's eldest son Edward (my 2nd-g grandfather) married Charlotte Williams, a Tasmanian-born daughter of Thomas and Mary Williams (nee Williams). Thomas and Mary were also from Wicklow and migrated to Tasmania in 1854. Thomas Williams was the son of a James and Elizabeth (nee Williams) and was from somewhere called Streamstown at Newtown Mount Kennedy, being baptised at Newcastle parish in 1808. Mary Williams was the daughter of a Richard and Catherine (nee ???) from around the Stump of the Castle townland near Rathdrum where she was baptised in 1813. I think Mary's family maybe moved to the Glenealy parish which was where a younger brother was baptised and Thomas and Mary were married in 1839, the couple then living at Streamstown at NMK until they migrated. It all seems an awful coincidence that William Mills wouldn't have known this family in Wicklow but knew them while living in separate towns in Tasmania.

As a slight aside, Mary's sister Jane Williams married a James Campbell (occupation "police" or "police pensioner" is all I know about this man) in Glenealy in 1832. Jane and her husband had at least three children baptised in Rathdrum: Samuel, Richard and Catherine. For reasons as yet unknown to me, one of Thomas and Mary's daughters Mary-Jane, born at NMK in 1849, did not travel with her parents to Tasmania. Mary-Jane instead arrived in Tasmania 12 years later in early 1866 with her apparently now widowed Aunt Jane. Another girl of the same age was travelling with them, Kate Reeves, I believe probably the daughter of a baker from Rathdrum named Hercules Reeves. I highly suspect Jane's daughter Catherine Campbell was the Catherine Campbell that married Thomas and Mary's son James Williams, her cousin. The age is right, and Jane stuck to the same town in Tasmania as her nephew James and his wife until she died in 1899.


If anyone has any clues about these particular Mills and Williams Protestants of Wicklow, or even just what Streamstown was at Newtown Mount Kennedy (a farm name?), I'd certainly be grateful to hear it.

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Re: Mills from Rathdrum Parish
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 12 December 24 14:55 GMT (UK) »
So I finally had a breakthrough and figured it all out. In case someone else wants to know in the future:


William Mills was the son Joseph Mills and his wife Mary of Corballis near Rathdrum. There are baptism dates floating around for some of Joseph and Mary's children: Anne (1815), John (1819), Mary (1822) and Elizabeth (1825, plus an earlier Elizabeth from 1817 who probably died in infancy).
The baptism of William and his remaining sister I can't find, but it turns out she wasn't Emma Maria, she was Adela Maria and died unmarried in 1900 in Melbourne Australia. I first spotted her as a witness for the wedding of Anne's stepson. A comment in the Victorian probate records match perfectly that she had a sister on the Isle of Man (Elizabeth, married Thomas Manning), with a brother (John, married Susan Hall) and sister (Anne, married George Pearce) both still in Wicklow. I'm unsure yet when Mary died.

Their father Joseph Mills himself had at least two siblings that lived to adulthood, John and Mary. John stayed in Wicklow near Rathdrum, Mary married a Matthew Neil and died in Jamestown, South Australia in 1888. Her newspaper death notice mentions her two brothers back in Wicklow.

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Re: Mills from Rathdrum Parish
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 12 December 24 17:47 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Mills from Rathdrum Parish
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 12 December 24 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi, My 4 times great grandmother Grace Mills born 1762 in Rathdrum and was the daughter of Dr Daniel and Elinor (nee Coggin) Mills. Daniel's parents were Richard and Elizabeth. I have not gone back further. Grace's uncles and aunts include Elizabeth Mills, Martha Mills,Jane Mills, Susannah Mills, Richard Mills and John Scott Mills. Grace's siblings born from 1760 to 1780 incl Elizabeth, Elenor, Frances, Mary, Daniel also a doctor who inherited the property "Kingston" in Rathdrum on condition he change his name to King, John, Maria,Ester,and Mary. Grace Mills married Revd William Lynar Fawcett, son of James Fawcett and Hannah Lynar. James was a builder and property owner with land in Dublin and a farm up the road from "Kingston" called "Avon Hill". He was also a church warden at the Rathdrum church (established church). Well done on your research.
Lynar: Dublin/Wicklow
Fawcett: Dublin
Mills, Mills King: Dublin
Semple: Dublin
Exshaw: Dublin
Duggan: Dublin
Heatley: Bray
Sparks: Greenwich London
Merrick : London

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Re: Mills from Rathdrum Parish
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 15 December 24 09:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi, My 4 times great grandmother Grace Mills born 1762 in Rathdrum and was the daughter of Dr Daniel and Elinor (nee Coggin) Mills. Daniel's parents were Richard and Elizabeth. I have not gone back further. Grace's uncles and aunts include Elizabeth Mills, Martha Mills,Jane Mills, Susannah Mills, Richard Mills and John Scott Mills. Grace's siblings born from 1760 to 1780 incl Elizabeth, Elenor, Frances, Mary, Daniel also a doctor who inherited the property "Kingston" in Rathdrum on condition he change his name to King, John, Maria,Ester,and Mary. Grace Mills married Revd William Lynar Fawcett, son of James Fawcett and Hannah Lynar. James was a builder and property owner with land in Dublin and a farm up the road from "Kingston" called "Avon Hill". He was also a church warden at the Rathdrum church (established church). Well done on your research.

Thanks, that's some interesting information you found! Was that the Daniel Mill who was, I think, an apothecary? Died 1779, born maybe around 1693? I was doing a little bit of research a while back on him but I didn't get too far. I know he married an Eleanor Coggin/Goggin, but I couldn't figure out if he had a previous wife Elizabeth and a daughter Sarah Mills baptised much earlier around 1720. With a few assumptions, I think this was the Sarah Mills that married a Thomas Williams and they were apparently living around the Rockstown townlands near Rathdrum. Their first child was named Daniel Mills Williams. Daniel Mills Williams married an Elizabeth and they had a daughter Elizabeth Williams. This Elizabeth Williams married a James Williams, also from Rathdrum and they moved to "Streamstown" at Newtownmountkennedy. One of their children was Thomas Williams, my 3rd-great grandfather who moved to Tasmania.

As I said though, a lot of assumptions that far back, but if the baptism/marriage/address trail is right, that would make Daniel Mills my... 7th-great grandfather? The reason I tried to figure it out in the first place is because among Thomas Williams' siblings, uncles, aunts, etc. is that recurring name of Daniel Mills Williams. I've counted at least five Daniel Mills Williams so far, and probably a sixth in Canada.