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Re: birth - Henry ALLISON & Mary Anne PARKINSON
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 10 April 10 08:39 BST (UK) »
IGI also has this birth:

THOS. ALLISON
Born 31 JAN 1806, baptised  16 FEB 1806 at  St Johns Old Haymarket, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Parents: THOS. ALLISON  and Mary.

This is an extracted entry which means it has been taken from local rcords so is reasonably reliable.

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DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

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Re: birth - Henry ALLISON & Mary Anne PARKINSON
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 10 April 10 08:41 BST (UK) »
Have added the street to the census entry - sorry forgot it!  J
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: birth - Henry ALLISON & Mary Anne PARKINSON
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 10 April 10 08:47 BST (UK) »
And here they are in 1841, at Southampton St, Borough of Lambeth, Parish of Camberwell

Thomas Allison 35 cabinet maker
Mary Allison 35
Thomas Allison 12
Mary Allison 10
Edward Allison 8
Henry Allison 6
James Allison 3

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DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: birth - Henry ALLISON & Mary Anne PARKINSON
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 10 April 10 08:51 BST (UK) »


Well - all I can say is that this information wasnt in the FreeBDMs or FreeCEN online!  The vollies must not have made it that far yet!

Thank you so much - I've spent all day looking for this information.

Its helped me get back 8 generations - which was my goal - so I'm very happy!
Scotland to Illabo - Hamilton,
Scotland to Melbourne - Pullar,
London to Melbourne - Allison,
Cornwall to Maldon - Wearne,
Yorkshire? to Melbourne - Joseph Ralph Smith and Jessie Gibson,
England - Clissold, Brighton,
Boxsell, Bond


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Re: birth - Henry ALLISON & Mary Anne PARKINSON
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 10 April 10 09:22 BST (UK) »

One of the most interesting aspects about Henry Allison was a statement that he entered on his wedding certificate with Mary Ann Parkinson in 1864.

Henry first married Jane Howe in 1857.  They had 3 children.  Children Jane and Henry both died in 1859.   Jane Howe died in September 1864 (yes, Henry married Mary Ann only a month after that!).   On the certificate, Henry stated that there were no remaining children from his first marriage.  This was not true.  In 1861, he and Jane had had a son, Alfred Allison.

Alfred Allison only just outlived his father, dying in 1889 (Henry died in 1884) - it listed his biological parents on his death rego.  Alfred would have only been 3 years old when his father remarried.

I wonder if there are any sources such as a census or other documentation which might help me work out if Alfred ever lived with his father and his new wife, Mary Ann?  Was he adopted out or given up as an orphan (probably not, with biological parents listed at death)? 

I've checked PROV briefly - with no results.  I wonder if anyone has any ideas of other possible places to look?

Scotland to Illabo - Hamilton,
Scotland to Melbourne - Pullar,
London to Melbourne - Allison,
Cornwall to Maldon - Wearne,
Yorkshire? to Melbourne - Joseph Ralph Smith and Jessie Gibson,
England - Clissold, Brighton,
Boxsell, Bond

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Re: birth - Henry ALLISON & Mary Anne PARKINSON
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 10 April 10 15:05 BST (UK) »
There is an entry in the Electoral roll of 1856:
Henry ALLISON, undertaker, 23 Howard St, Royal Park

Therre are notices in The Argus (NLA digitised newspapers) for the births of the children of Henry and Jane and the deaths of the two babies as well as Jane's death.  Her notice is in three times - twice on 7 September 1864 - the first edition of the paper saying she died on the 5th and the second edition giving her death as the 6th - and again on the 24th September.  She is described as 'dearly beloved wife' and apparently died at home which is where his undertaking business was carried on.

Interesting also - I see an Alfred Allison carried on the business at the same address (Victoria St West Melbourne) - where Henry and Jane had lived.  So one assumes that he and his father were in close contact.  I note Alfred's death notice (The Argus 19 March 1889) has no family names, just gives his address in Ascot Vale.  Henry's death notice is the same - just gives an address: 196 William St West Melbourne.

Mary Ann had died in 1880, same address as the death of Henry.

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: birth - Henry ALLISON & Mary Anne PARKINSON
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 10 April 10 15:18 BST (UK) »
You have probably seen Alfred's will leaving his business to his business partner Walter Downing and all else to his wife Rachel.  The will is dated 15 March 1889 so it looks as though he was aware of being close to death.  :(

I note also on Henry's will that he had married a third time and that he was sending an annuity of 64pounds pa to his father.

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: birth - Henry ALLISON & Mary Anne PARKINSON
« Reply #16 on: Friday 16 April 10 03:19 BST (UK) »


Jud,

Thnks for making these connections for me!

Yes, I had seen the newspaper articles regarding Henry and Sarah's children - so I was surprised to find Alfred's birth rego when  I did a quick search.  And I did have Henry and Alfred's wills.

However, I hadnt made the connection between the addresses of Henry and Jane's home and Alfred's business.  I'd say that's pretty conclusive that Alfred and Henry had good contact.  It just seems odd that Henry felt the need to lie on his wedding registration with Mary - god knows why - maybe some legal or financial reason - the Allison brother's seemed to be savvy businessmen!

And Henry had 3 wives!  His third (I've just checked it up) was Sarah Jones, whom he married in 1881 - 4 years before his death, aged only 49.   Not sure how old Sarah was, but they managed to have 3 kids in the years they had together.

So between 3 marriages, Henry had 13 children.  Not a bad run! 
Scotland to Illabo - Hamilton,
Scotland to Melbourne - Pullar,
London to Melbourne - Allison,
Cornwall to Maldon - Wearne,
Yorkshire? to Melbourne - Joseph Ralph Smith and Jessie Gibson,
England - Clissold, Brighton,
Boxsell, Bond

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Re: birth - Henry ALLISON & Mary Anne PARKINSON
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 15:51 BST (UK) »
Hi out there all Allison followers,
It seems that Alfred left his business to Walter as there were n o children, He was married to a jewish lady, Rachael Mandelberg. She later remarried.
Walter married a sister of Rachale, Charlotte Mandelberg and 4 kids were produced.
I have only just come into this discussion, but a cousin is inteested in the Allison people.
Do I have it right, Henry was Alfred's father.
Thomas, born 1806, and a cabinet maker etc living in Surrey, Camberwell and so on was the father of Henry.
Who were all of Henry's children? Was there another Thomas? There are so many Allison undetakers at this time.
Was one of the children of Henry  a John or James?
Interestingly, my cousin is form the Allison side....and related through my father.....I am also related to the Mandelberg side from my father;s side.
Looks like everyone came out here in the 1800's, it was a good way to make a lot of money and the young colony was literally a goldmine, with the gold rushes in 1851 in Ballarat and all the growth and industry to follow, and naturally population increase.
Any assistance on my queries appreciated, thanks Esther Kahn nee Woolf Melbourne Australia