Drayton? in Middlesex?

[DougTCanada]

Hastings of Amersham in 1634. This is 12 miles from Little Marlow.

[findem]

I think you mean William and Mary (Overshott) being the parents of William, John and Thomas -  not William and Elizabeth?

I haven't yet tried to prove that link, my family group sheet for William and Elizabeth shows only three children for this couple, all three baptised at Cookham:-
William 1757
John 1758
Thomas 1762

You're right Doug I did mean William and Mary, by the time I posted that I was getting very weary, at the moment I tire fairly easy but I'm gradually getting stronger.

[findem]

Because there seems to be more information available we may have been led totally off base by looking in the Berkshire direction for Hastings especially looking at Hagbourne which is 30 miles away from Little Marlow. There are other candidates in Buckinghamshire that are closer. There is a William Hasting who marries Elizabeth Turner (or "Turnr." ) in West Wycombe in 1725 a mere 6 miles away. I am sure there are more Hastings in the area just that the info isn't readily available. There is also some in Wendover which is 16 miles away. William "Haston" b. 1725 to William and Mary. 

Yikes,  this is not going to be easy.

The water is certainly getting muddier Doug, I'm hoping more info coming on line will help me with a Hill associated Ing line, I have three consecutive Ing families for whom in spite of two searches by the Bucks Family History site in their database, plus searches in surrounding counties where possible, the marriages remain a mystery. 

Mark Ing to Ann c1673, 1st known child An baptised 1675.

William Ing to Mary c1715, 1st known child John baptised 1718.

William Ing to Mary c1742, 1st known child Ann baptised 1744.

All known children of those three families were baptised in Long Crendon, Bucks

So I guess we can expect some more muddying of the water in the years to come.

I'm now in the process of looking at Charlotte Louisa Russell versus Charlotte Webb.

[findem]

Now to see what I can do to sort out the two Charlottes.

Currently I have 13 children for this family but I'm wondering if some belong to a Daniel Hill and Charlotte Louisa Russell and others to a Daniel Hill and Charlotte Webb.
Baptisms
Harriet 7 Mar 1813 Hammersmith.
Frederick 11 Jun 1815 Hammersmith, parents Daniel & Charlotte Louisa Hill.
Henry 2 Feb 1821 Chelsea. born 24 Sep 1815.
John 2 Feb 1821 Chelsea. born 4 Jul 1817.
Louisa 18 Apr 1819 Hammersmith, parents Daniel & Charlotte Louisa Hill.
Daniel 2 Feb 1821 Chelsea.
Charlotte 7 Nov 1824 St Mary Hillingdon.
James 29 Oct 1826 St Mary Hillingdon.
Eliza 26 Sep 1826 Chelsea.
Caroline Hannah 8 Aug 1830 Chelsea.
Elizabeth 12 Oct 1832 Chelsea.
Jane Elizabeth 21 Sep 1834 Chelsea, born 9 Aug 1834.
? Ellen 12 Jul 1836 Northolt. ?

Daniel Hill (of Wandsworth) married Charlotte Louisa Russell 17 Jun 1810 St George Hanover Square.
Daniel Hill married Charlotte Webb 29 Jun 1811 St John the Baptist, Hillingdon.

Notes.
Only Frederick and Louisa were noted as being children of Daniel and Louisa Hill, the rest were simply noted as children of Daniel and Charlotte Hill.

I’ve listed the children in Chronological order.

The reason for posting the above info is so that when I have anything to post regarding the two Charlottes and families I wont have to go back and forth between this topic and my Family Group Sheets in Excel.

[DougTCanada]

I have discovered something very useful. Sometimes all good things come to those who wait.  I have been using FamilySearch.org to track and record my family tree. For one, it is free and viewable by any family members who are interested. The information will always be there because genealogy is an important thing for the Mormons. More important is that it is crowd sourced. Information that is put in a family tree is checked by others and it is added to. Have you seen the junk in Acestry.com  trees that just keeps replicating? Yikes!

The "waiting" part, aside waiting for others to add to one's work, is that the program itself seems to run an algorithm every once in a while that will automatically add people to your family tree. That is what happened with the "Ing" family.   

I added Elizabeth Ing as the correct spouse to Jonathan Hastings. Several days later when I checked back magically all the people you are searching so hard for were added to the tree. Goes back as far as Marke Ingwald who married Ann in 1674.

You can see it all with a free account at familysearch.org   

Because there seems to be more information available we may have been led totally off base by looking in the Berkshire direction for Hastings especially looking at Hagbourne which is 30 miles away from Little Marlow. There are other candidates in Buckinghamshire that are closer. There is a William Hasting who marries Elizabeth Turner (or "Turnr." ) in West Wycombe in 1725 a mere 6 miles away. I am sure there are more Hastings in the area just that the info isn't readily available. There is also some in Wendover which is 16 miles away. William "Haston" b. 1725 to William and Mary. 

Yikes,  this is not going to be easy.

The water is certainly getting muddier Doug, I'm hoping more info coming on line will help me with a Hill associated Ing line, I have three consecutive Ing families for whom in spite of two searches by the Bucks Family History site in their database, plus searches in surrounding counties where possible, the marriages remain a mystery. 

Mark Ing to Ann c1673, 1st known child An baptised 1675.

William Ing to Mary c1715, 1st known child John baptised 1718.

William Ing to Mary c1742, 1st known child Ann baptised 1744.

All known children of those three families were baptised in Long Crendon, Bucks

So I guess we can expect some more muddying of the water in the years to come.

I'm now in the process of looking at Charlotte Louisa Russell versus Charlotte Webb.

[DougTCanada]

I believe the Hammersmith and Hillingdon children are incorrect. I found 8 children for Daniel Hill and Charlotte Webb with the help of GRO. Begins in 1815 with "Henry". The last one is Elizabeth born in 1839 in Uxbridge. I consider the last one iffy just because it is Uxbridge but the parents are the same so I am using it. You can see them all by searching trees at familysearch.org. It is worthwhile to sometimes add someone you may not be 100% sold on because eventually it will be confirmed or someone else will come along and correct it. So, I added Elizabeth even though not 100%.

Now to see what I can do to sort out the two Charlottes.

Currently I have 13 children for this family but I'm wondering if some belong to a Daniel Hill and Charlotte Louisa Russell and others to a Daniel Hill and Charlotte Webb.
Baptisms
Harriet 7 Mar 1813 Hammersmith.
Frederick 11 Jun 1815 Hammersmith, parents Daniel & Charlotte Louisa Hill.
Henry 2 Feb 1821 Chelsea. born 24 Sep 1815.
John 2 Feb 1821 Chelsea. born 4 Jul 1817.
Louisa 18 Apr 1819 Hammersmith, parents Daniel & Charlotte Louisa Hill.
Daniel 2 Feb 1821 Chelsea.
Charlotte 7 Nov 1824 St Mary Hillingdon.
James 29 Oct 1826 St Mary Hillingdon.
Eliza 26 Sep 1826 Chelsea.
Caroline Hannah 8 Aug 1830 Chelsea.
Elizabeth 12 Oct 1832 Chelsea.
Jane Elizabeth 21 Sep 1834 Chelsea, born 9 Aug 1834.
? Ellen 12 Jul 1836 Northolt. ?

Daniel Hill (of Wandsworth) married Charlotte Louisa Russell 17 Jun 1810 St George Hanover Square.
Daniel Hill married Charlotte Webb 29 Jun 1811 St John the Baptist, Hillingdon.

Notes.
Only Frederick and Louisa were noted as being children of Daniel and Louisa Hill, the rest were simply noted as children of Daniel and Charlotte Hill.

I’ve listed the children in Chronological order.

The reason for posting the above info is so that when I have anything to post regarding the two Charlottes and families I wont have to go back and forth between this topic and my Family Group Sheets in Excel.

[familydar]

Aside from the slightly different mother's name, I would say that Louisa (1819) belongs to a different couple from the trio bap Chelsea in 1821, logic being that if she was their sister she surely would have been bap at the same time.  And by extension, Fred (1815) is probably a brother to Louisa.

There will almost certainly be earlier baps to both couples, much closer to their marriages, but they will be in different registers which may not be on familysearch.

I think the Hillingdon baps starting 1824 are to a THIRD as yet unidentified couple.  Charlotte may be their first-born daughter.

If images of the PRs known about so far can be checked they should give abodes and occs, this may help with separating out the families.  I'd regard the magically growing familysearch tree as nothing more than a set of hints.

Jane :-)

[DougTCanada]

I agree. I have fixed countless errors myself. Far less than I see in Ancestry trees however. 

I'd regard the magically growing familysearch tree as nothing more than a set of hints.

Jane :-)

[findem]

What I'm hoping to do is first off find the baptism of the Charlotte Webb who married a Daniel Hill in 1811 at Hillingdon.

Then find baptisms for Charlotte Webb's siblings, I'm hoping the first names used for that family might help towards identifying which Hill children belong to which of the two Daniel and Charlotte families. 

I have never been 100% confident that mother of all 13 children was Charlotte Louisa Russell but getting evidence to prove it is another matter.

If I was to go with a guess I could see the children baptised at Hammersmith having Charlotte Russell as a mother.

The children baptised at Chelsea could well have Charlotte Webb as their mother.

As for the two children baptised at Hillingdon I'm not sure which way to go with them.

Considering that Daniel Hill and Charlotte Webb were married at Hillingdon it is tempting to think of those two children as having Charlotte Webb as a mother if it wasn't for James baptised 29 Oct 1826 at Hillingdon and Eliza baptised 26 Sep 1826 at Chelsea, two different parishes and only a month between the two baptisms doesn't gel.

The father of Charlotte Louisa Russell is James Russell, so perhaps James Hill baptised 29 Oct 1826 at Hillingdon would see him as a child of Charlotte L Russell, and of course Charlotte Hill baptised 7 Nov 1824 at Hillingdon along with him.

Having all the above thoughts rattling around my head it looks as though I might have to accept Charlotte Webb as my ancestor, time will tell I suppose.

Feel free to shoot down any of the above.