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bower family living at hartley west farm
« on: Tuesday 23 March 10 20:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, just wondering if anyone can help me please.  My research has led me to a grave stone in St albans church yard in earsdon.  It is for john and elizabeth bower and a few of their children. John was my 5 X Great grand father.  It says they were farmers at hartly west farm and they appear to own it from info on 1851 census. 

Does anyone know where i can get some more info on this please??

I am hoping it will lead me to some very interesting finds.

I hope someone clever out there can help me please.

Thank you.

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Re: bower family living at hartley west farm
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 March 10 06:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi
It looks like the farm is still there. There is a modern day picture here http://www.rootschat.com/links/089u/
Drag the image slightly south. There is also a map that shows the farm here http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm choose the search tab and enter the post code NE26 4RN then choose 1856-1865 map from the drop down menu.

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Re: bower family living at hartley west farm
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 March 10 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I may be wrong and am willing to be corrected, but I suspect that they were tenant farmers.  Most of the farms in that area were, and still are, part of the Delaval estate - part of which has recently been acquired by the National Trust.  I know that Northumberland Archives at Woodhorn has material from the Delaval estate but I don't have any exact details as to what it contains.

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Re: bower family living at hartley west farm
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 March 10 11:35 GMT (UK) »
It says they were farmers at hartly west farm and they appear to own it from info on 1851 census.

On the 1851 census it says John is a 'farmer of 200 acres, 5 labourers'

But it doesn't say that he owned the land.

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Re: bower family living at hartley west farm
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 March 10 12:35 GMT (UK) »
I may be wrong and am willing to be corrected, but I suspect that they were tenant farmers.  Most of the farms in that area were, and still are, part of the Delaval estate - part of which has recently been acquired by the National Trust. 

To back this up, Whellan's Directory of 1855 http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/d.asp states that 'the Delavel family acquired possession of the entire Manor (i.e. of Hartley) and it is now the property of Lord Hastings' (of Seaton Delaval)

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Re: bower family living at hartley west farm
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 March 10 23:38 GMT (UK) »


 To see more photos of the farm go to www.geograph.org.uk
Enter same postcode or NZ3375
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 An Excellent Thrashing Machine !
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 To be sold by Private Contract

 An excellent Thrahing Machine of 4 Horse Power standing
at Holywell North Farm.

 Aplly to Mr John Bower of Hartley West Farm or Mr Moses Pye auctioner of North Shields

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Above was advert in the 27th April 1849 edition of Newcastle Courant.

There were another 4 articles resulting from key-word search of " hartley west farm "

6 May 1857 Earsdon marriage of Elizabeth dtr of late John Bower of Hartley farm west

 10 april 1874 earsdon marriage of Mary Elizabeth, eldest dtr of late William Bower of Hartley West Farm

 7 Mar 1879 Auction by Moses Pye of what looks like all animals and implements from the farm  " in default of rent"

14 Sep 1883. Results of Seaton delaval and New Hartley Floral and Horticultural Society. H Gillespie of Hartley west Farm won a second prize.

Mrs Bower of Seaton Delaval won "Best Pound of Butter"  W.Bower won prizes in both Floral and Vegatable classes.

Lord Hastings and party popped into the show.

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Re: bower family living at hartley west farm
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 March 10 04:58 GMT (UK) »
Do you have the 1841 Census?

1841 Census
Holywell, Earsden, Northumberland
HO107/820/18/Earsden

John BOWER, 55, Farmer
Elizabeth, 55
Jane, 31 or 37
James, 25, Ag lab
George, 25, Ag lab
Elizabeth, 25
William, 20, Ag lab
Bridget, 15
All born in County, no relationships shown.

Jane and James appear on 1851 Census aged 38/36
John dies pre 1857 as Elizabeths wedding record shows posted by Michael

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Re: bower family living at hartley west farm
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 11 April 10 18:58 BST (UK) »
Was any of this information of any use to you? We have all spent time trying to help.

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Re: bower family living at hartley west farm
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 December 11 23:27 GMT (UK) »
Just found this posting and hope that saltandpepper will respond. 

I've just discovered that John Bower was my 4 x GGF.  I guess that makes us something like second cousins a zillion times removed?

It may be that, since your posting last year, you've managed to gather a fair bit of info.  However, I'm local to Hartley West Farm and might be able to help.

In any event, this is only the second time that I've come across other relatives, and a first within an on-line forum!  Excited!   :D
HENDERSON (Borders/Northumb), MOFFAT (Borders), BELL (Lesbury/Longhoughton)
SCOTT, CLAVERING, GILHESPY, ROCHESTER, WEIGHTMAN, LOCKHART, BOWER, NEIL (Northumb), TEMPERLEY & ROBSON (Co.Durham), ATKINSON, SMITH, BROUGH, LOWTHER (Cumb), MOWAT & WARES (Caithness), plus loads of others.......