Prison sentence

[Redroger]

My understanding was that the rule was initials only, though in view of these postings it seems as though the rules were mis-interpreted in some cases like those referring to no names to be shown in the 1801-1831 censuses.

[tressle]

I've been googling about and cannot find a definitive answer.  I have just re-read Guy Etchells transcribed 'Enumerators Instructions' and cannot see anything in there regarding institutions and initials only.

Another site just says that 'In 1861 only initials needed to be returned in Institutions', which sounds as if it was very much left up to the enumerator.

Tressle

[Redroger]

Which is always a recipe for anomalies and potential disastrous errors.

[kazisindahouse]

Hi Sandra
Have we spoken before? I am related but distantly to Louisa Dewey who was the daughter of James and Eliza Dewey nee Norton. Louisa is the sister of George William Dewey born 1848 who is my 2 x great grandfather.
Louisa was not the only Dewey family member who came to Sheffield as my 2 x great father did also and descendants of his family stayed in Sheffield.
I have Benjamin listed as Benjamin Gault not Gaunt however and have them on the 1891 census living together in Sheffield at what looks like Club Mill Cottages?
If my memory serves me correctly but I cannot find the information at present either Louisa or Benjamin or both are buried in Burngreave Cemetary in Sheffield.
Maybe we could speak via email?
Thanks
Karen Beasley

[kazisindahouse]

Hi Sandra
I've just had a quick look on Ancestry and have managed to find the following -
Benjamin Gault born 1843 to William and Sarah Gault although I still dont have the baptism record.
1851 census Benjamin is living on what looks like Chalk or Charlk Road in West Wickham, Cambridgeshire living with his parents William and Sarah and his siblings. William does not have an occupation listed but Benjamins siblings including Benjamin at 7 years old is listed as an agricultural labourer.
1861 census - still loking for
1866 - Benjamin maries Louisa
1871 census Benjamin and Louisa were living on Ely Road in Waterbeach, Cambridgeshire and Louisa's sister Ellen was living with them. Benjamin is listed as a farmer of 22 acres
1881- listed as you say as married but on his own living on Effingham Street and Louisa is living on Apple Street.
1891 as advised previously living in Sheffield at Club Mill Cottages?
1901 - 35 Gilpin Street in Sheffield. Benjamin is listed as being Brewers Drayman.
On the 1891 entry is the last person on the entry is listed as a gentleman by the name of James Penny and he is listed as father to head. This I believe should read James DEWEY and is Louisa's father James as he was born 1817 in Witchford in Cambridgeshire.
Does this make sense with the research you have done too? Fingers crossed!
Thanks
Karen

[Jeuel]

I've found a few prisoners and asylum inmates on censuses.  I think its only in 1901 that I've found initials only, but found my chap as he has a small village as his birthplace.

I haven't got anyone in prison/asylum in 1911 so don't know about that census.

People with prisoner ancestors may be interested to know that the gaol registers are usually at the relevant county archives.  These commonly give the prisoner's name, age, birthplace and a physical description which can be very detailed.  Some archives, such as Bedfordshire and Gloucestershire, have searchable online indexes.

Additionally, The National Archives at Kew has quarterly returns for many prisons which would give the prisoner's name and a word or so about his/her health.