Philadelphia - John Harold Austin x2 - are they father and son?

[*Sandra*]

1920 Census Ridley, Delaware, Pennsylvania

Charles Armstrong 42 Born Pennsylvania !!! Blacksmith at shipyards
Elizabeth N Armstrong 36
Charles J Armstrong 9
Joseph Armstrong 7
Kathryn Armstrong 3 years 4 months
Evia Armstrong 1 month

1930 Ridley, Delaware, Pennsylvania

Charles Armstrong 52 Born Northern Ireland. Blacksmith. Blacksmiths shop
Elizabeth Armstrong 46
Charles Armstrong 20 Auto Mechanic
Joseph Armstrong 16 Attendant at Gas Station
Kathryn Armstrong 13
Carin Armstrong 10
Betty Armstrong 8
Thomas Armstrong 6

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Not sure if this would be your John but it looks to be a possibility.  WW2 Army Enlistment. John H Austin Born 1920. Enlisted  22 May 1944. Civil Occupation: Tinsmiths, coppersmiths, and sheet metal workers. 4 years of High Scool. Married. 

There are no birth or marriage records online, to obtaining a birth certificate you would have to be quite closely related but the details are here:-

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/birth_certificates/14121

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/marriage_and_divorce_certificates/14126

http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/death_certificates/14122

[ShaunJ]

Thanks for your help with this.

Not sure about that army enlistment - the John H Austin I am researching must have been born around 1920 but he was in the US Navy.

[*Sandra*]

World War 2 Navy, Marine Corps and Coastguard Casulties.

John Harold Austin. Wartender 3c USNR. Parents Mr and Mrs Daniel Simpson. 604 Johnson Street. Philadelphia. State Pennsylvania. Killed In Action.

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A possible SSDI Record to keep in mind for Isabel Simpson.

Born 4 Jan 1901 Died Dec 1969.

Last Residence was : 19148  Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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A possible SSDI Record for Daniel Simpson.

Born 24 Dec 1902. Died Dec 1971.

Last Residence was:- 19148  Philadelphia,  Pennsylvania (The same as Isabel in Dec 1969)

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SSDI Record for Frank J Davenport. Son of Frank J Davenport (1909) and Saddie/Sarah Armstrong (1906)

Born 23 Oct 1925. Died 7 Sep 2004
Last Residence was: 19087  Wayne, Delaware, Pennsylvania,

Obituary Link:- 

 http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=PI&s_site=philly&p_multi=PI&p_theme=realcities&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=1051B587D8FC82B5&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM

SSDI Record for Frank J Davenport Snr.

Born 19 Oct 1902 Died May 1982.

Last residence was:- 19050  Lansdowne, Delaware, Pennsylvania.

SSDI Record Born 1928 Betty (Baker) Lou Davenport Died 18 Aug 2004.
Obituary should be in the Morning Call Allentown. PA 26 Aug 2004 but it isn't coming up

[ShaunJ]

Once again many thanks to Dettori28 for all the contributions on this query. We've certainly filled in a lot of gaps.

John H Austin's 1917 marriage to Isabel Armstrong is listed on the LDS Philadelphia marriage indexes 1885-1951, as is the  marriage of a Doris M Austin to James T Reilly in 1937.

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/#c=1388247;p=collectionDetails

However I can't see anything there for the 1920's marriages of Frank J PrendergastDavenport and Sarah/Sad(d)ie, or of Daniel Simpson and Isabel

[*Sandra*]

Hello Shaun.

Yes. Quite alot of progress but just a few missing links.  You had me going with Frank J Prendergast, wondered where he had appeared from but I think you mean Frank J Davenport.
Disapppointing not to see a marriage for him and Sarah/Saddie - it would have confirmed a surname for her.  We know she was listed as an Armstrong but 1910 said adopted child - it could be that she was'nt legally adopted and may go under a different surname !! (Just a thought anyway - these things were quite expensive then !!)
Apart from that, we still have a missing death record for John H Austin and a marriage for Isabel to Daniel Simpson. (Although you have a time frame for those)
I wonder if you could get an RAOGK in Philadelphia to check for an obituary for John H Austin, if it was an accident of some sort you would think something would be in the newspapers.
I will put a link on to see if you can find anyone on the list that could help.  Always worth an e-mail !!!

http://www.raogk.org/pennsylv5.htm