Regiment ID please [ Fleet Pond Camp ]

[Tabbitha]

Hi Rootschatters.I am trying to piece together John Jack Morris's [ my 2x Gt.Uncle ]  'life' after he enlisted.My mum says no one in the family [ ie my gran and Gt.Gran ] knew what happened to him.

I have found lots of  Morris entries,but not knowing his regiment,its difficult to narrow it down.

He was born and raised in Manchester ,so would most likely of joined the Manchester regiment or Fusiliers.

He was a cook in the regiment and hopefully the attached photo will identify the regiment.

Many thanks in anticipation

[Pete Keane]

Hard to tell any Regt details, the badges are very small.

Fleet Pond (and Camp) is part of the army training ground at Aldershot.

Can you provide a larger image of the men in uniform.

Manchester based Regts also included the South Lancs at Warrington, and the Kings Liverpool, also Warrington, and the East Lancs at Preston - all recruited in the Manchester area.

Pete

[Pete Keane]

The CSM also has regimental bars on his epaulettes - I believe this may give us a 'latest' date the photo could have been taken, plus they appear to be wearing the post-1915 tunic?

scrimnet? you've got better eyesight than me.

[Tabbitha]

Thanks for the replies,here is a more detailed close up of the uniforms

[neil1821]

The chap in close-up there appears to be Royal Army Medical Corps.

[Bilge]

The Fleet Pond Camp was used by Royal Army Medical Corp until about 1962.
In 1854 the larger portion of the pond was to come under the jurisdiction of the Army as part of the military estate attached to Aldershot camp, which was to remain the case until as late as 1972, when the land was finally sold to what was to eventually become Hart District Council.
 Fleet Pond is dotted with a number of small islands, some real, and some artificial - constructed by the Royal Engineers in late late nineteenth century.

[Tabbitha]

Many thanks.Hopefully I can move on to my next step of trying to identify where Jack/John went from this picture being taken. Do you think I need to be looking for J Morris as a member of the Army Catering Core or Medical core ?

[Pete Keane]

In the photo....which is he? I know you mention he was a cook, but if is in uniform in the photo he may not be.

Also, was he killed in service?

The catering corps did not exist at the time this photo was taken, so he would be part of the parent  regiment:

The army Catering Corps did not exist as a separate Corps in the Army until the 1st January 1965 when it was granted the status of an independent Corps in its own right, under the direction of the Quartermaster General. Until then the Catering Corps had been under the control of the Royal Army Service Corps since its formation on the 22nd March 1941 under Army order 35 of 1941. Prior to that, the Regiments had their own cooks, some of whom were trained in one of the two cookery schools which existed in Aldershot and Poona in India.

Which makes things harder really, 'cos he may have been at the cookery school prior to going on to his own regiment!

Pete

[Tabbitha]

Thanks for replying Pete.

On the original photo he is left [as we look at the screen] of the chap in uniform that I did a close up of.I did read about the ACC not starting up till after the photo was taken, but I had already asked by then ,sorry.

He didnt die in the war.

The only other info I have is that he was born 1891 and lived in Hulme,Manchester before the Army.