1841 census William Hatcher look-up

[Whenu]

Hello, I am wondering if SKS can do a look-up for two people for me.
!;William Hatcher, farmer, of London Fields,
and 2; Charles Gentry, brickmaker, also of London Fields
Thanks for any help, cheers, Lance

[CaroleW]

Can you supply birthyears please

There are only 2 Charles Gentry entries in Middlesex and neither was a brickmaker

[Whenu]

Hi Carol, I have a father and son, both named Charles Gentry, one born about 1794 in Gt Totham, Essex and the son born about 1822 in London somewhere.
I got the brickmaker occupation of the father and the location from the son's wedding certificate.
Hope this helps, cheers, Lance

[Valda]

Hi

The residency in 1844 of the married couple Charles Gentry letter carrier (a necessary residency of three weeks only prior to the marriage) gives no indication that either father was ever from that area or in the case of Charles Gentry the brickmaker, ever in London, or that either father was still alive, as the placing of the word deceased on marriage certificates for fathers was never a requirement and merely the custom of practice of some officials but not the custom and practice of many other.

see the previous posting on Gentrys for further information

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,424961.0.html

Ann Gentry aged 27 married at St James Shoreditch in 1857 to Walter Henry Robert Gentry who probably died in 1859. On her marriage she gave her father's name as Charles Gentry brickmaker deceased.

1861 census RG9 160 folio 23?
39 Church Street Hackney
Ann Gentry 31 Head Widow Laundress Beckingham Essex
Walter Gentry 2 Son Finsbury Middlesex
Mary Humber 9 Months Boarder Shoreditch

She married again to William Miller Lambard in 1868 at St Matthew Bethnal Green. This time there was no mention on the marriage that Charles was deceased. On the 1871 census Ann gave her birthplace as Halstead and on the 1881 census she stated Totham - her age varies. There is an Ann Gentry aged 13 in Maldon Essex a servant on the 1841 census.

Totham parish registers seem the ones worth searching in particular for the Gentry family.

If William Hatcher had a daughter baptised in 1815 then his birth would have to have taken place in the 1790s or before. In Middlesex on the 1841 census there appears to be only one, a shoe maker.


Regards

Valda
 
 
 

[Whenu]

Thanks Valda, for that info,
Lance

[Joanne Warby]

No one seems to have metioned the following Chrles gentry:

1841: Hamlet of Mile End New Town - Stepney - Middlesex
Charles Gentry...45...Labourer...N (N= not born in county)

Labourer could be any kind of labourer - including Bricklabourer - i have come across this before

[Joanne Warby]

Another entry on the Family search gives this:
Charles Gentry b. abt 1822 d. 14 Dec 1867 married abt 1845 Maryann [sic] Hatcher in London she d. 1 Aug 1880

[Valda]

Hi Joanne

see the link to the other posting in the previous post which details the Charles Gentry marriage to Mary Ann Hatcher. If Lance is correct from his last post on that topic the Charles Gentry he is interested in was born in Great Totham Essex in 1794. The Charles Gentry on the 1841 census aged 45 a labourer in Mile End New Town is probably Charles Streeter Gentry who married Ann Minchin in Mile End in 1842 and is a waterman in Stepney aged 58 and born Sussex, with his wife and step sons on the 1851 census. He was a coachman on his marriage and gave his father as Richard Gentry deceased. That Charles died in 1856.

Regards

Valda

[Joanne Warby]

Thanks ... have done a bit of fossicking about on NZ records and found Charles gentry and mary Ann came to NZ on the Mariner in 1849 - so at least i know to stop looking for them in the 1851 census. They had two wee children listed with thtem and other children born in NZ before Charles died.

Bye for now regards Joanne