Bilston - Staffs

[poptin]

I got the info from Ancestry, the 1901 census has him as being 35.  I got his name from my husband's grandad's birth certificate.  I know census ages can sometimes be give or take a few years.  Also I was wondering if his name could have been James, as sometimes names have a habit of being changed in the mists of time, my dad was called John but was always known as Jack!!!!

[markyb74]

Hi,

Could he have been born in 1864 as there is the following entry
Births Dec 1864
BAKER  John     Wolverhampton  6b 498

also in the 1911 census there is a John Baker aged 47 living in Wolverhampton with his wife Margaret Jane and children Arthur, John and Hilda. Do these match with what you found in 1901?

Mark

[Willow 4873]

Hiya

Could this be him?

Baptism 20 Nov 1864 Ettingshall Church John son of Joseph & Mary Ann BAKER Ettingshall Lane Sheet iron worker C.W.Richards Born 19 Oct

Willow x

[lizdb]

This looks like the 1901 that I guess Poptin has:

(taken from transcription only, for some reason it refuses to show mr the image)

RG13 4305 120 33
CAstleford Yorkshire
John 35 bn Bilston
MAry 39 bn Normanton Yorkshire
George 9  bn Castleford
Samuel 6 bn Castleford
John Jackson 35
Annie Jackson 7

so that doesnt look like the same one as the one you have in 1911

[lizdb]

For such a common name as John Baker, it is too big a jump to go from one census in 1901 back to trying to pinpoint a birth, so I was hoping to go one step at a time and trace him back through the censuses, see if he is consistant with age and pob, etc etc.

However, there is no obvious candidate in 1891, and with the eldest child in 1901 being age 9, it means he could be married or single in 1891 .... so even less easy to pin him down!
So- really need his marriage, but with names like John and MAry and not knowing where, that is not straightforward.
So we really need a child's birth cert to give MAry's maiden name!

SO- on the birth cert that you have for your husbands grandad, where you say father was John Baker, what maiden name did it give for his mother, Mary?

[markyb74]

Looking at the actual 1901 census image on FindMyPast it appears that someone crossed through his age being 35 and wrote 41 instead.  Also it could be that he had been previously married as there seems to be a Wid note by the condition as to marriage column.

Mark

[Willow 4873]

I cant get the image to open 

Willow x

[markyb74]

I have just tried on Ancestry and can't get the image to open either.

[Willow 4873]

Obviously a glitch their end

Could you tell us what is his occupation on the 1901 Mark so maybe we can eliminate some candidates

Willow x