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Germany pre 1881 looking for B/M/D (PLEASE CLOSE, THANKS)
« on: Thursday 18 March 10 15:06 GMT (UK) »
I haven't a clue how good German records are so my question is

Is there any site of these families (Westpfel's and Amund/Amend) in Germany pre 1881?......births, marriages etc

1901 census
21, Dacca Street, St Nicholas Deptford, Greenwich, London
Fred Westpfel..........Head..........46................Labourer General.......................Germany (F S)   
Eliza........."..............Wife...........44...................Housewife................................Germany (F S) 
Otto..........."...............Son............20...............Labourer General........................Deptford, London   
Charlie......"...............Son............18...............Labourer General.........................Deptford, London   
Willie........"...............Son............14..................School.......................................Deptford, London   
Maud........"..............Daughter.....11..................School.......................................Deptford, London 
Nellie........".............Daughter......6....................School.......................................Deptford, London   
Rose.........".............Daughter......2....................School.......................................Deptford, London   
Ethel.........".............Daughter......3 months.........................................................Deptford, London   
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1891 census
12, Dacco Street, St Nicholas, Deptford, Greenwich, London
Fredk Westpfel.........Head..........34.................General Laborer.........................Germany   
Elizabeth....".............Wife...........32....................................................................Germany 
Nuna Amend....Mother In Law.....64..Widow.......................................................Germany 
Otto Westphel...........Son............10.....................................................................Deptford, London   
Chas...........".............Son..............8.....................................................................Deptford, London   
Gerty..........."...........Daughter.......6.....................................................................Deptford, London   
Willm.........."............Son...............4.....................................................................Rotherhithe, London   
Maud.........."............Daughter........1....................................................................Deptford, London 
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1881 census
30, Berthorn St, St Paul Deptford, Greenwich, London
John Amend.............Head..............54...................Labourer.................................British Subject, Germany   
Ann G.....".................Wife...............33...................................................................British Subject, Germany   
Frederich Westfell...Son In Law.....26...................Labourer.................................British Subject, Germany   
Elizabeth......".........Daughter.........23...................................................................British Subject, Germany   
Otto F............"..........Grandson.........0 months......................................................Deptford, Kent   
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29th Feb 1880 (must have been leap year!)
St Mary Magdalen, Bermonsey

Frederick Westfel full age bachelor, tallow merchant, 5 Nelson Street, father Charles Westfel, Miller
Elizabeth Amend, full age, spinster, 1 St George Place, father John Amend, tallow merchant
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Thanks
Bryant
Researching names BRYANT (Camberwell), PASTERFIELD (Essex and all), RAY (Holborn/Islington areas back to Brentford), POWELL (Glouc & beyond?)
Fletcher (Glouc into Warwickshie into Lancs?), BUCKLEY (Chatham area), Watson (Chatham area).


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Re: Germany pre 1881 looking for B/M/D
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 March 10 17:21 GMT (UK) »
The family information is on your other topic,
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,444704.0.html

There are no specific sites for BMDs in Germany, as there is not much online  at all.

In general, you need to know the exact town or religious parish so you can apply to a specific Registry Ofiice or Church Diocese records office.

See Topic: Sharing Useful Tips: GERMANY and E. Europe
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,11860.30.html
for some tips.

Be aware, that the name in Germany may have been Westphal, Westphel, Westpfehl, Westphels, or other variations

Good luck,
Bob
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Re: Germany pre 1881 looking for B/M/D
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 March 10 17:26 GMT (UK) »
That look very much like a cut n paste of a post I made on your other thread!

If you look at, I think it was 1871 but may have been 1881 census, there are some other Westphals around, bn Germany, and I think gave a placename. They may (or may not) br related to Fredk and give you a clue. I spotted them when fiddling around on the other thread, but then found the marriage we were looking for so didnt pursue.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Germany pre 1881 looking for B/M/D
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 March 10 20:36 GMT (UK) »
I was looking for any German info on the British subjects

If we are looking at a variant of Westphal then we are in trouble!

The background info was just background info to know more of the story and the marriage details were more or less a cut and paste from info provided by Lizdb

You never know the plumber might take a little off his next bill when ever that is  ;D

Bryant
Researching names BRYANT (Camberwell), PASTERFIELD (Essex and all), RAY (Holborn/Islington areas back to Brentford), POWELL (Glouc & beyond?)
Fletcher (Glouc into Warwickshie into Lancs?), BUCKLEY (Chatham area), Watson (Chatham area).


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Re: Germany pre 1881 looking for B/M/D (PLEASE CLOSE, THANKS)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 July 10 00:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Bryant

I'm also looking at the Westpfels, in fact I'm in charge of the Westpfel One-Name Study over at the Guild of One-Name Studies! I have censuses, certificates and photographs amongst other things!

I was wondering if a. we'd already spoken before, and b. if we haven't if you'd like to!

A Westpfel is my great grandmother, and I am in contact with a lot of Westpfel family.

What's your interest/connection?