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Re: Help with transcription
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 18 March 10 01:07 GMT (UK) »


 Ruskie,

 Yesterday Lieutenant Andrew Armstrong " and Son" , rolled in their graves when you said you were disapponited that he only mapped Warkworth area and not the county !

 With great toil he/they mapped the whole county. And as Jennifer points out much of the map appears within the appropriate communities sections within the web site. But Northumbland County Record Office did not use the complete map of 1769, as their list of communities did not include every community in the county.

Seemingly making the map was very expensive, but Duke of Northumberland and other landowners helped with the costs.

It was, is ? available from Northumberland CRO (Woodhorn) for 30 GBPs.

Michael



Yes Michael, I did add my embarrassed face after I realised my mistake. I hope the Armstrongs (and you) forgive me.

It's the sort of map I like - nice and clear and includes all those small places that are sometimes omitted from other maps but mentioned on early PR's. I looked at many of the maps in the communities section and noticed that the RO has missed out some sections.

I would consider purchasing the map but £30 is a bit steep for something that I'd keep rolled up most of the time. (No spare wall spce in my house  ;))

Apologies again to "Andrew Armstrong and son"  :-[

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Re: Help with transcription
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 18 March 10 07:54 GMT (UK) »


 Ruskie,

 No need for any apologies to me- your comment let me have a chuckle !

 I too have enjoyed the maps included within NBL Communities- and they have solved many anomalies for me. (As has the County Record Office's database- which they call "Farm Index", which lists farms and places within appropriate Townships and Parishes)

I am also fortunate to be able to periodically question helpful Keith ( he works
at NBL County Record Office -at Woodhorn). He was instrumental in the setting up of the Communities site some years ago and explained how there was great competition for inclusions.

Notice that although Armstrong mapped the south-east of the county
(e.g.  Newcastle>Wallsend>North Shields>Tynemouth>Whitley>Earsdon etc) none of the area gets included because it is not in modern-day Northumberland. That probably a "budget" issue.
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With a surname of Dixon, it would be nice for me to claim ancestry to Jeremiah Dixon, born Cockfield, County Durham, who with Charles Mason mapped the so-called "Mason-Dixon Line" in America- also in 1760s. The rest as they say is History.

Although my nickname at school was Dixie (or was it Dixy ? lol) I am from a line of Cumbrian Dixons, so can not claim link to clever Co Durham Dixons.


Michael
Names.

GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

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Re: Help with transcription
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 18 March 10 11:38 GMT (UK) »
Yes. Michael, I noticed that the areas you mentioned weren't included (and they're the places some of my lot hail from  :-\)

Tell 'Helpful Keith' he's done a good job with the site.

I'm also interested in the "Farm Index" - I'll try googling that.  ;)

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« Reply #22 on: Thursday 18 March 10 12:46 GMT (UK) »


Thank you Jennifer.   Doing links is not one of my skills.
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Another helpful tool on Northumberland place names is book "GOODWIFE HOT, Northumberland's Past in it's Place Names" by Godfrey Watson, pub.1970.

He writes....

 " The honour of bearing the oldest English name in Northumberland may well go to BIRLING near Warkworth, which was probably founded in the C6th. As late as 1187 it was still known as BERLINGA, meaning - Of the Sons of the Cupbearer, or perhaps, less romantically, - Of the man whose shield bore the device of a Boar.

" At GLOSTER HILL near Amble, a Roman altar was discovered in 1856 and there are other signs of Roman occupation; hence the name GLOUCESTRE in 1178. The better known Gloucester, in the county of that name, derives it's name from ceaster, for "camp" and from the Celtic word "bright" or "splendid"
In the case of GLOSTER HILL it is just possible that the name is a corruption of of Goatchester, the Goats being the Marshy land by te Gildean burn where salt used to be made.


" Maidens Hall (once Face-the-Deil) is one of those names like Maiden Castle and Maiden's Causeway, the literal meaning of which is obvious but any sensible explanation singularly lacking. Was the place inhabited by Maiden Ladies. was it originally a Hill so easily defensible that Girls could have held it against all comers? Were3 Nuns involved ? One simply does not know"

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Michael
Names.

GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

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Re: Help with transcription
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 18 March 10 13:40 GMT (UK) »