1851 Census: can't decipher name/find them elsewhere

[tomatillo]

I'd be really grateful if anyone would be able to help me to decipher a name on the 1851 Census or help me to find any other trace of the people.

I'm not sure that I'd be allowed to post the image of the page as it's from ancestry. The reference is HO107/1509/250 p42 and ancestry has the family name transcribed as Hostwill so the details are:

33 Crown Street, St Giles in the Field, Finsbury:
James Hostwill, 60, Head, Tailor, Wales Herefordshire (?)
Sarah Hostwill, 59, wife, Tailor, Wales Herefordshire
Charles Hostwill, 22, son, Tailor, Middlesex st Ann
Maria Taylor, 20, niece, Waistcoat maker, Middlesex, st Pancras

The name does look like Hostwill but I can't find any other trace of that name anywhere. The niece, Maria, is one of 'mine' and I am hoping that the aunt and uncle will help me through the brick wall of trying to sort her parents out. Her mother's maiden name was Protherough/Prothero and I'm wondering whether Sarah 'Hostwill' was originally Sarah Protherough/Prothero.

If anyone would be able to work out who they are or find them elsewhere I'd be really grateful,

Many thanks

[BridgetM]

FindMyPast has James as:

HOSTWILL, James Head Married M 60 1791 Tailor Herefordshire Wales
 

[wilcoxon]

Free BMD has
Deaths Jun 1856   
Hastwell  James     St. Giles  1b 219
Deaths Mar 1856   
HASTEWELL  Sarah     St Giles  1b 246

This Covers St. Giles in the Fields which is the parish you have in 1851
Could this be the same couple.

[tomatillo]

brilliant, thankyou. I've found them as James Hastwell and Sarah Western marrying in 1841 in St George's Bloomsbury wtih abode given as 33 Crown Street. Given they were supposedly a bachelor and a spinster I'm not sure how they managed to have a son in 1829... I think further digging is required...

Unfortunately it doesn't give me an easy connection back to Maria's parents yet but working on it!

[Eyesee]

Possibility for Maria's parents
St George Bloomsbury
1823 Nov 16
John TAYLOR, otp,
Mary PROTHEROUGH, otp,
Married after Banns
Witnesses James TAYLOR, John HARRISON

Is this Maria
St Pancras Old Church
1832 Nov 14, Mary Maria, d/o John & Mary TAYLOR, Kenton St, Fruiterer, born Oct 28

The same John and Mary as they had a daughter Harriet Protherough TAYLOR in 1829

Ian C

[wilcoxon]

James Hastwell and Sarah Western marrying in 1841 in St George's Bloomsbury wtih abode given as 33 Crown Street. Given they were supposedly a bachelor and a spinster I'm not sure how they managed to have a son in 1829

They could have been married before, 50 and 49 seems to quite a late age to marry.

[Valda]

Hi

The relationship on censuses is to the head of the household - niece/niece by marriage

24th March 1829 St Anne, Soho born 26th May 1828
Charles James Hastwell parents James and Charlotte, G/ flow Street, father's occupation tailor

26th April 1835 St Anne, Soho
John Hastwell and Clara Baker, bachelor and spinster of the parish
Married by banns
Witnesses William Payne and Mary Hastwell

Clara may have remarried in 1845

1861 census RG9 591 folio 26
175 Edward Street Brighton Sussex
William Payne 48 Head Married Boot and shoremaker Merton? Surrey
Ruth Payne 45 Wife Married Whitehaven Cumberland
Charles Hastwell 32 Brother-in-law unmarried Foreman London Middlesex
plus apprentice and workman

RUTH HASTWELL 
Christening:  22 MAY 1816   Saint James, Whitehaven, Cumberland
Father:  JAMES HASTWELL 
Mother:  MARY

and siblings all baptised Whitehaven

JOHN HASTWELL Christneing: 12 SEP 1814
ELIZABETH HASTWELL Christening: 18 APR 1819
REBECCA HASTWELL Christening: 03 AUG 1821

Marriages Sep 1864   Hastwell  Charles     Brighton  2b 279   
Deaths Mar 1875   Hastwell  Charles  46  Brighton  2b 151

24 Jul 1864 St Nicholas Brighton, Sussex
HASTWELL, Charles   Age:36 father James Hastwell   
Esther HENLEY   Age:24 father John Henley

1871 census RG10 1076 folio 41
64 William Street Brighton
Charles Hastwell 42 Lodger Married Clicker Soho Middlesex
Esther Hastwell 32 Wife Married Brighton Sussex
Anna Hastwell 5 Daughter Brighton Sussex
Charlot Clara Hastwell 1 Daughter Brighton Sussex


Regards

Valda

[tomatillo]

Many thanks to you all for all of that. That is fantastic and has got me so much further than I'd hoped. Many thanks for those records Eyesee I'm almost certain that that is exactly the right family.

Unfortunately I still can't work out where the family connection between the Hastewells and Maria comes in and I'm wondering whether I've made a mistake and this is a different Maria.
To make the uncle/aunt connection I'm looking for a Protherough or a Taylor at some point, presumably either as James' earlier wife or Sarah's maiden name (assuming she had actually been married before). Looking at that huge amount of information that Valda has found (many thanks) it looks as if James was previously married to a Charlotte and prior to that a Mary (in Cumberland). I can find a good match for Charlotte but not for Mary or for any earlier marriage for Sarah Western/Hastewell. The marriage to Charlotte is I think:

1 Feb 1827, christ Church Newgate, James HASTWELL and Charlotte HELEM. So no obvious link yet.

Many thanks for the help that you've all given it's very much appreciated.

[Valda]

Hi

So it is this family you are interested in?

1841 census HO107 672/10 folio 10
Kenton Street St George Bloomsbury
John Taylor 35 Fruiterer
Mary Taylor 35
Harriett Taylor 10
Sarah Taylor 10
Mary Taylor 5
all born Middlesex

Sarah Watson Taylor baptised Pancras 1830 married in 1849 giving St George Bloomsbury as her address. Her sister Harriet Protherough Taylor married in the same year as Henriette Protherough Taylor and gave Kenton Street as her address.

Regards

Valda