Ted, could very well be. I know there is a link to Newall, they were coal miners - might they have been working their way round all the pits, as one closed they moved to another. Mums dad Joseph Neal died when he was 25 ish and she really doesn't remember any of her relatives from that side of the family. We'll keep digging, we might still be cousins LOL. Strange co-incidence that they were down as Freemans in one of the census.