Finding Mary Ann Frances NEWMAN

[LHurrey]

Hi everyone,

I'm new here so I hope I'm not doing anything wrong.  Thank you in advance for your help.

I'm looking for my great great grandmother Mary Ann Frances Newman. I believe she was born around 1859 (either in Victoria or the UK). She married my gg grandfather Alfred Clarke Hurrey (b. 1855 in Melbourne and d. 10 Jul 1931 in Prahan). I believe they married in 1880 in Vic. I have found a newspaper obit listing her death as 3 Dec 1936. I have quite a bit of info on there children etc. but no info of Mary Ann's parents. I would love to find out any details about her before she married my gg grandfather.

There children are:
Ethel Daisy b. 1881
Alfred William b. 1882 d. 1883
Frank Steadman b. 1885 d. 1953
Herbert John b. 1887 d. 1969
Ellen Francis (Nell) b.
Harry Ernest b. 1889 d. 1889

Thank you again for any help you can offer.

Lucy

[cando]

Death in Victoria
HURREY Mary Anna Frances
Father Hurrey Newman Jno  Mother Amelia Martha  PERRIAM
At Burwood  83 years  1936  Reg#10691

I would suggest the informant has given her married name as her father's surname.

Her marriage cert would give the parents' of both bride and groom


Cando

[cando]

Marriage
HURREY Alfred Clarke born Melbourne
NEWMAN Mary Anne Frances born Collingwood
1880  Reg#230

I cannot see her birth registration in Victoria but her marriage cert indicates she was born at Collingwood. Vic.

Cando

[LHurrey]

Thanks very much Cando. I was worried that the Mary ANNA Frances was different to the Mary ANNE Frances. I know there were often mistakes made by clerks in transcibing so it could be the same but using familysearch.org I found birth records for both Anna and Anne with different years for birth (1853 and 1859 respectively). Could this be duplication do you think?

[cando]

There is no birth record on the Victorian birth indexes for Mary NEWMAN with the parents named on her death certificate.  However if the birth was in 1853 that is before the commencement of civil reg in Victoria.

There are two on familysearch....one is submitted and does not even have the name of her parents.  I treat all submitted records with a great deal of caution.

The other however is a transcribed parish record and the names of the parents are identical with those on her death certificate

NEWMAN Mary Anna Frances Newman     
Born 10 Oct 1853         
Baptised  8 Jun 1854  St Stephens, Richmond, Vic.
Father  John Newman      Mother    Amelia Martha

Cando    


   

[cando]

Parents arriving in Vic
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/index_search.asp?searchid=23

NEWMAN John [30 years] and Amelia [26 years] arrived April 1853 on the   
ALBATROSS from Port   B Fiche033 Page 008

Cando

[LHurrey]

Thank you again Cando. I was wondering about the "submitted" thing. You've set my mind at ease that it is her. And thanks for the arrival details. Very helpful.  You're wonderful!

[cando]

This may possibly be her parents on 1851 census

1851 Census  HO107/1498/463/39
Residing at 1 Laybourne Street, St Pancras
NEWMAN John  Head Married  30 years  Porter b. Bulkington Wiltshire
NEWMAN Amelia Wife Married 24 years   b. Aston, Oxfordshire
NEWNAN Martha Ann Dau 1 month   b. St Pancras, Middlesex

Births Mar 1851 
NEWMAN Martha Ann St. Pancras 1/356

Deaths Dec 1851 
NEWMAN Martha Ann St Pancras 1/256

The birth certificate of Martha would give you more information ie if it is Mary Ann's parents.

Cando

[LHurrey]

Thanks Cando,

I think I found that Amelia and her last name was Long not Perriam so Im not sure if that is them. Everything else fits though.

Thanks again