Sharman siblings missing since 1871

[roby]

Dear all,

My g grandfathers siblings Elizabeth Kimbell SHARMAN b. 1850 and Herbert William SHARMAN b. 1852 in Cransley, Northamptonshire are found in all UK censuses including the 1871 census.   They seem to have disappeared after this date.  Their  father John died in 1870 and the mother Martha in 1874. 
 All the siblings seem to have left the UK,  my g grandfather Charles William SHARMAN went to Australia between 1871 and 1890 when he married, however his siblings Herbert  b 1852 and Elizabeth Kimbell Sharman b. 1850 are missing after 1871. 

I have searched extensively in the later UK censues, marriages and deaths and to date I am unable to find Elizabeth or Herbert.   

However in March 1881 I find a Mr H Sharman arriving in Halifax, Nova Scotia from LIverpool England, which is before the next UK census.  This is a long shot, but would appreciate if anyone had information to eliminate this passenger from my search.

Any help would be greatly received
Kind regards
Roby

[cosmac]

http://www.rootschat.com/links/085y/
From this link you can search the 1881 and 1891 Canadian census
You can also use the Passenger Lists 1865-1922 to find the passenger record you are referring to.  These lists are not organized by name of passenger but by the ships name and date and port of entry.   The record you indicated doesn't give any information to rule him in or out.

There is this - perhaps just a similiar name but it might be worth following up on.  There is a reference to Herbert William Sharman (deceased) in the paragraphs above the entries for Probate.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0862/

Debbie

[roby]

Thanks Debbie for your reply and valuable information.   I am particularly interested in the Herbert William Sharman (deceased) but I cannot seem to see where that is.   I have clicked on the link that you provided and checked each individual databases, but cannot seem to see the word Probate.   What am I doing wrong, do I need knew glasses??

Thanks so much
Roby

[cosmac]

Sorry, when I shrunk the link to the second reference I must not have actually copied it and therefore gave you the first link twice.  I've amended the mistake in the post.

Debbie

[Jacquie in Canada]

Further to Debbie's New Zealand find, the New Zealand Archives has a probate file for a Herbert William Sharman in Christchurch:
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=19937828

I've ordered a probate file from the New Zealand Archives once by email and if I recall correctly it wasn't very expensive and the member of their staff who I communicated with was extremely helpful.

Jacquie

[roby]

thank you Debbie and Jacquie for your helpful replies.  I

 have sent an email to NZ archives for some help.   
I have access to the NZ BDM and what I find is interesting is that I cannot find a death for Herbert William Sharman at all.    Maybe he never lived in NZ, but just owned property   Would this explain probate, but no death record? 

Keen to hear any view points on this?

Once again many thanks for your help

Roby

[aniph]

Roby

I have several ancestors that lived in NZ but died in Australia, they have NZ probate records.

I have checked NSW BDM for you but no sign of him, maybe Victoria?

Annie

[J.J.]

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?OID=20188744
saw Jacquie already had submitted Herbert's record... this might be a son (named after your ancestor?)
Or was it referring to your Charles William? A photo, date of entry 1874...date /place of birth seems to match?
http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-Cyc03Cycl-t1-body1-d4-d17-d2.html

( sorry, My pasteover didn't work, but have now corrected the link)

[JDC]

Good morning,

You may want to check the 1901 and other censuses on www.automatedgenealogy.com for your ancestors. Library and Archives Canada has all of the Fderal censuses up tp 1911, I believe, on their website. Sorry can't recall their addy at the moment.  Hope this helps.

JDC