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Re: Sharman siblings missing since 1871
« Reply #18 on: Monday 29 March 10 15:11 BST (UK) »
Hi Roby,

We are all here to find out the truths regarding our ancestors, including the things we don't particularly want to hear about them. The rootschatters here are here to help one another out in finding those truths, including helping you out as best we can :-)

I now appears your ancestor (and assuming his wife Mary Ann) didn't migrate till after their marriage 1n 1883. Thus I think they both should be found in the 1881 UK census (if they participated - some folks avoided censuses for whatever their reason). Have you checked the 1881, 1891, and 1901 UK censuses for this pair? Don't exclude other parts of the UK... ie Scotland and Ireland. That would help determine if and when they migrated. Once that is done and can't be found in those censuses, we can start looking at passenger lists and "overseas" censuses. I think this is a good restarting point for finding your lost ancestor.

Hope this helps you roby,

In cooperation,

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Re: Sharman siblings missing since 1871
« Reply #19 on: Monday 29 March 10 15:28 BST (UK) »
I suppose the cooperation comment is regarding my entries... We have searched for many hours looking for a family that had nothing to do with roby's...although someone eventually may be happy to find the family we did find... :D

We STILL don't know the actual name of the woman that roby's real Sharman ancestor married. From reply above:
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"My g grandfather Charles William SHARMAN marriage certificate indicates that he was born in Northamptonshire and he was born about 1857/58 and he married in Australia in 1890 and died here in 1910. "
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Re: Sharman siblings missing since 1871
« Reply #20 on: Monday 29 March 10 15:44 BST (UK) »
Hi JJ,

No, I didn't mean you specifically JJ so I hope you (or anyone else for that matter) didn't take offence to it. If so, I appoligize. I meant for everyone cooperating (as per usual here :-), including Roby providing full discloser as to the relevant info held about her ancestor(s) being searched for. I was simply attempting to emphasize we are here to help each other out :-) however poorly I said it this time :-(

cheers and have a gr8 day,

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Re: Sharman siblings missing since 1871
« Reply #21 on: Monday 29 March 10 18:22 BST (UK) »
 :D oh, just me being over-sensitive  ;)  It is unfortunate that ancestor Mr. Sharman wasn't forthcoming with information his either, as it makes it so hard to find someone who does not seem to want to be found... J.J.
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Re: Sharman siblings missing since 1871
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 30 March 10 12:40 BST (UK) »
I have folllowed this thread with interest and sympathise with Roby that the William Charles Sharman she has been following has turned out not to be her G/Grandfather, well done to you Roby for following up every lead you could find and good luck in finding the information as to his origins and family. We often have to go down paths that lead to nowhere but that's genealogy for you.

JJ your comment ................. "We STILL don't know the actual name of the woman that roby's real Sharman ancestor married."

Roby has clearly stated William Charles Sharman married in Australia in 1890, I get the clear impression that Roby knows a great deal about her Great Grandfather after his marriage and can't see why you perisist in wanting to know the name of his spouse, it seem irrelevant to her quest to find the origns of William Charles.

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Re: Sharman siblings missing since 1871
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 30 March 10 15:24 BST (UK) »
Actually names of children and spouse can be used over again, so it is always a valid question. To ask some questions is how a search gets started, then we move back in time...( as long as it's within the privacy laws,  time-wise)It's what we do. I feel sorry for roby and have asked her to start over again on one of her threads, so that we can help.  Please note how many people have done searches on roby's behalf on this topic.

New Zealand board:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442790.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442792.0.html
Northamps:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,437086.0.html
U.S
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,437331.0.html
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442297.0.html
Canada:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442307.0.html

I will now link the other threads as well
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Re: Sharman siblings missing since 1871
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 30 March 10 19:43 BST (UK) »
JJ your comment ................. "We STILL don't know the actual name of the woman that roby's real Sharman ancestor married."

Roby has clearly stated William Charles Sharman married in Australia in 1890, I get the clear impression that Roby knows a great deal about her Great Grandfather after his marriage and can't see why you perisist in wanting to know the name of his spouse, it seem irrelevant to her quest to find the origns of William Charles

Knowing the name of the woman William married would help a LOT with searches. To do a proper job helping others we need as much information as possible to find the right person and preferably everything that is known about the person in question to avoid a duplication of work already done. Spouse's names are listed on many documents that are available over the internet so having the name of his wife would obvious help in ascertaining whether we have found the right person or not.

I'm not sure whether your underlining the capital "R" was some sort of dig at JJ but you will notice the member in question's screen name is roby with a lowercase "r".

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Sharman siblings missing since 1871
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 30 March 10 21:31 BST (UK) »
3 online ancestry.ca trees have Charles William Sharman married to
Aimee Louise Wealands (Amy Wealands/Amy L. Wealands) Feb 25, 1890 Corowa N.S.W.
Aimee b. 1862 d. 1948

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Re: Sharman siblings missing since 1871
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 30 March 10 22:49 BST (UK) »
3 online ancestry.ca trees have Charles William Sharman married to
Aimee Louise Wealands (Amy Wealands/Amy L. Wealands) Feb 25, 1890 Corowa N.S.W.
Aimee b. 1862 d. 1948

The next step seems to be to obtain a copy of this marriage registration and see if it can add information for the search.

Jacquie
Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz