Cox/MacCormack Family *COMPLETED*

[Mary34]

thanks, that could be correct and had been running through my mind about adoption, will get a printout when I return from holiday in a couple of weeks.

Cheers
Marj

[Lucy2]

Hi Lu

Another curly one for our family is Eliza Cox (nee Fletcher) and her child by Patrick Boylan.

Her name on the birth is Caroline Boylan.  Here is the link to where I got to but no takers
 http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,446014.0.html

Hi Marj

Hmmm ... not surprised "there were no takers".       

Even though you provided a link (to another thread), any potential helpers still need to do an enormous amount of reading, (and view links to other information already sourced), in order to get to grips with the "story".  It all takes quite a bit of finding.      And  maybe help would have been forthcoming if your initial query (here) had mentioned the child's name  ... instead of "2nd daughter of Eliza Cox" .... and "this wee girl"      

I did earlier look at the "COX- related" threads on the Australian Board (and need to do so again to refresh my memory).

My "take" on matters, is that it was the elder daughter of Eliza COX who was taken into the custody of William and Christina FLETCHER (probably on a temporary basis ?).   The infant BOYLAN child seems (for a time) to have been taken care of by Eliza's sister (a Mrs. BELL ... was it ?). 

But aren't both of these girls noted as "living issue" on Eliza's death certificate ?    I tend to think that Eliza, some time later, resumed responsibility for them ?

I would rule out the Caroline FLETCHER marriage 1905 to WYLLIE.

I have some information for "a Caroline" - whom I think is a much more likely "candidate"  - which I'll post shortly.

~  Lu
     

[Mary34]

Thanks Lu

I really need this break.  I got told off in Uk thread for having 2 which is why I put the link in.   The worst part is remembering to put all the details in.   Tonight when my packing is finished I will print all the threads off and do some reading on the plane and make some notes.   Originally I was not going to pursue Caroline, but kept thinking how she is really a part of the grand scheme which is probably why I didn't give her details.

Cheers and thanks
Marj

[Lucy2]

Hi Marj

Aw  ... not "telling you off"    ...  just offering an explanation as to why your query was probably not picked up on.   (Many helpers on RC simply don't have the time to read through all the layers of info.    It's easier to join in when a thread is in its "infancy" ...  but once threads start expanding and also if other links are added, it becomes something of a mission to get to grips with.) 
And yes, I know the dilemma about "just how much info one should add to an initial query"   ... have been guilty myself on occasions, of omitting the "important stuff.   

Posting information for "Caroline", next.

*   Can you tell me also please, where Eliza COX died ?

*   Also, what is the name of Eliza COX's eldest daughter,
(married name / place of death).

~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Caroline - daughter of Eliza COX

From thread on OZ board - reference supplied by Jenn ("tropical J" ) :

Birth - Australia

1877

BOYLAN - Caroline Edith
Father:   Patrick
Mother :  Eliza FLETCHER
Reg'n No :    7250      District :   Carlton - VIC

[And noting also, that the NZ newspaper report (re: Eliza COX v. Patrick BOYLAN), stated the wrong year of birth (1876) for this child. ]

Marj  ... I'm pretty sure that the following is the child "Caroline Edith" :   [* There appears to be a "transcription error" with the marriage though ?]

NZ Marriage

Colin* Edith Caroline COX -- James Peter ST. CLAIR - 1900

Date of Marriage :    22 March 1900

[* "Colin" appears to be an  "error" ---  very likely it is a corruption of the name "Caroline"  ... though I've no idea why "Caroline" appears after "Edith" - unless it was a correction ?    But see next post re: birth of a child to this couple. ]

Given all the "drama" concerning Eliza COX and Patrick BOYLAN (particularly that, over the registration of the child's birth), I don't see anything "odd" about Caroline having eventually taken on the same surname (COX) as her Mother and older siblings.

My view is that this "Colin Edith Caroline COX" is much more likely (than any other) to have been the girl born as "Caroline Edith BOYLAN". 

~  Lu

[Lucy2]

NZ Birth

1900

ST. CLAIR - Dring* Leslie        D.o.b.   4 February 1900

Parents:   Caroline Edith ... and James Peter 

Added:   This birth was registered at Wellington - in 2nd quarter :


*  "Dring"   ... maybe this was the correct name of the child ?

I did however check the microfiche - handwritten entry, rather hard to read.       At a pinch, the name could be "Oring"  ?

Problem  ... no further information found in NZ for this child.
[Have searched St. CLAIR / SINCLAIR ...  and on second name "Leslie" ... am assuming the child was male.].

~   Lu
 

 

[Lucy2]

NZ Death

1901 - ST. CLAIR - James Peter - aged 36 years

Added:   Date of death - 12 June 1901

I suspect this is the death of the husband of Caroline Edith ST. CLAIR.      It too was registered at Wellington.

~   Lu

[Lucy2]

Marj

I can find nothing further in NZ records for Caroline Edith ST. CLAIR ... nor for the child born of the union with James Peter ST. CLAIR.
[B, D and M checked ... no obvious re-marriage for Caroline.   A search of Australian records is probably needed ?]

Note:    You'll see the the child was born 4 February 1900 and that the marriage took place on 22 March 1900.    It seems the birth registration ( in 2nd quarter) was done after the marriage took place .

No burial / cemetery records found in the Wellington area for James Peter ST. CLAIR.    (Hutt area not checked.)

~   Lu 

[Mary34]

Hi Lu

Thanks again.   I will do a search in Aus while I am in Adelaide and see what I can come up with.

Signing out now for a few days.

Cheers
Marj