Researching Doyle/Malone/ Ryan all of Wicklow Town & Murray of Arklow

[J.M. Flannery]

Thought you might like to see some results of my many many years of research. Also with the hope that someone may get something of interest out of it, and perhaps add to it. I know researching can be a a big pain, but you get great satisfaction when it all begins to add up. I have many gaps still to fill, but the following information has been verified by baptisms, Birth & Marriage Certificates. I know I have been very fortunite to have nearly all my fathers side of the family born, baptised and married in St Patrick's Church Wicklow Town.

Parents: Father: Philip Doyle (1907 – 1973).   Married 1936 To Julia Angela O’Carroll 1911 – 1999. They had 9 children, 3 sons died at birth inclusing twins, 6 daughters survived to adulthood, and all have family.

Grandparents: Thomas Doyle (bc 1870 – 1943). Married 1894 (a ‘minor’ under 18 or 21 at this time)
To Susanna Malone (Bp. 1867 – 1945). They had 8 known children, 7 with families

1st Great-grandparents: Michael Malone (baptised 1832 –    ) To Maria Ryan. (Bp. 1843 -    ). They had 9 known children 1867–1882

2nd Gr-Grandparents: John Ryan (b 1816 -    ). married 1841. St Patrick’s Church Wicklow Town. To Annie McGuirk/McGurke (b 1817 -      ).    They had 6 known Children

3rd Great Grandparents: John Ryan (b c 1790 -    ) married?        Anna Redmond.  They had 2 known Children
 (1) Catherine (bp. Oct 1800) sp Thomas Kavanagh & Catherine Redmond & (2) above John.

4th Great Grandparents: Mr. ? Ryan married  Miss Murray (bc 1770 -    ) (6th child of Thomas & Judith) in Sheep Walk Arklow. They had 1 known Child.

5th Great Grandparents: Thomas Murray (bc 1743 died aged 90 yrs) of Raheen or Ballyvogue otherwise Sheepwalk, near Arklow, married Judith ? (bc 1745 -     ). They had 7 known Children 5 sons & 2 daus.
1 son; 2 Peter 1763; 3 daughter; 4 son; 5 Daniel 1768-1852, Archbishop of Dublin; 6 daughter my ancestor; 7 Thomas 1773.

Got the ages of 3 of his 5 sons from: "Copy of a Lease of a farm at Sheepwalk, Arklow, in 1787"

             ... to the said Thomas Murray, his exors. Admors. and Assigns, from the 25th of March
   last past for and during the natural life and lives of Peter Murray second son of the said
   Thomas Murray, Lesee, aged twenty four years or thereabouts, Daniel Murray fourth son
   of the said Thomas Murray, aged nineteen years or thereabouts, and Thomas Murray fifth
    son of the said Thomas Murray, aged fourteen years or thereabouts ....

P.J. Murray, Arklow Historical Society Journal, 1984. pp 48-52

Julia

[nitsuj]

julia
very impressive indeed
its obvious a lot of time, blood, sweat and tears went into your research
fair play
and along the way you were able to throw info my way
which i am very grateful
by the way is there a link between your doyles and mine
anyway well done again

[J.M. Flannery]

Hi,

I'm afraid I have no idea if our Doyles were related. This is my brick wall. I am at a standstill with my Grandfather Thomas Doyle's side of the family. Many years ago I asked an old lady who was my father's first cosies if she could help my find my Great grandfather. She said she would tell  me something if I promised I would not say anything to the rest of the family "unless they asked me" I kept my promise and unfortunately it is now too late as all the senior members of daddy's family have passed away, and the present ones dint know anything.

Her information to me was that "my grandfather was adopted and came from The Blue Coat School in Dublin. If anyone knows anything about the records of this school, I would be very grateful. Unfortunately there is no paper work to tell me anything now, or who his parents were.

My Grandfather, I am convinced did not know his date of birth. On his marriage cert he is described as a 'minor' under 18 or 21? Have searched for a birth from 1864 with no luck, what was his real surname? 

married Sept 1894 in Wicklow. 'Minor = under 21' perhaps bc 1870/3 ?  under 18 bc 1876
c 1901, he was age 27 [bc1874] : c 1911, he was age 35yr [bc 76]
1943, Death cert he was age 69 yr [bc 1874]

On c 1911 his parents state, they were married 40 yrs "no" children born & no children living

Julia

[amz]

Hi Julia,
I have just seen your post and from Michael Malone and maria Ryan all my ancestors are the same. if you find any more information i would love to here from you.

[J.M. Flannery]

Hi amz,

Welcome to rootschat, can you give me a little information on your family please?
I have been researching since circa 1992 and have gained quite a considerable amount of information.

Looking forward to hearing from you again,

Julia

[amz]

Hi Julia, my gg grandmother Margaret Anne was a sister of Susanna Malone. she married Patrick Doyle and lived in 23 Summerhill Wicklow 

[J.M. Flannery]

Hi Amy,

My grandmother was their bridesmaid. Your grandmother was married on her 21st birthday. Info from my Aunt Cissie. I'm sure you now know who I am!

Julia

[amz]

yeah I knew that she married on her 21st birthday your Aunt Cissie would be my g granny, I am not really quite sure who you are do you go by another name? do you know who i am? i am very interested.

[J.M. Flannery]

Yes we are related. Just to make it more complicated your gr-granny Cissie was my father's 1st cousin. How is Roisin doing, I missed her when she was home recently