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Re: Help to decipher an old BC
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 04 March 10 22:56 GMT (UK) »

The next word is very puzzling as it looks like a small 'g' (?) followed by a letter which I can't anywhere in a secretary hand alphabet. Or maybe it is all one letter. The tail goes backward as in 'g' but the writer, it seems has developed his own hand!


It's not "of" is it? Is that too simple?  :-\

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Re: Help to decipher an old BC
« Reply #10 on: Friday 05 March 10 07:12 GMT (UK) »
Is this the right part?
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Re: Help to decipher an old BC
« Reply #11 on: Friday 05 March 10 07:45 GMT (UK) »
Sheilah, the last two lines. Sir Robert Ker of Cessford and Sir Walter Scott of Buccleugh?  Master, I Think, refers to the oldest son of a house. Cessford used to be spelled with an S......Skoosh.

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Re: Help to decipher an old BC
« Reply #12 on: Friday 05 March 10 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Skoosh,

Yes, that is the right part, and thank you so much for your input.

Those names stand out now that I know what they are! I think you are right.

I am presuming that, being dubbed 'Master', Thomas was an 'heir presumptive' to an Earldom or Barony. The word after the abbreviated 'Master' is still a mystery.

A few years ago, I was given a possible... but it is still not clear to me. I have done a lot of research into the history of early Scotland. I was born a Bruce and my 3x gt grandfather Robert Bruce married Mary Lyon. I have managed to trace the family back to this Thomas Lyon and really need to know what he was Master of....there are not too many Thomas Lyons about at that time.

Hope you can see why it is bugging me so much!

I would appreciate you having another look at this word, and then I will tell you what I think it could be.

Warm wishes,  Sheilah
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Re: Help to decipher an old BC
« Reply #13 on: Friday 05 March 10 11:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ruskie,

Yes, it looks like it could be 'of', but of where?  'Master of.....?'    or  'Master ...?'

It could also be all one word!! Puzzling huh?

Sheilah
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Re: Help to decipher an old BC
« Reply #14 on: Friday 05 March 10 14:08 GMT (UK) »
Sheilah,  after the Master of, it's Sir Alexander VD?  that  term also appears near  the end of the first line, it wouldn't mean ditto by any chance? or a number, do you know what parish this stuff refers to?.....Skoosh.

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Re: Help to decipher an old BC
« Reply #15 on: Friday 05 March 10 16:04 GMT (UK) »
It is Edinburgh Parish. IGI No: C116584

What I made out was..

"Thomas Lyon Mr ....?....  a son Alexander" on the first line.

Of the missing word, I thought it may begin with 'G', but nowhere on the whole document is another letter like it.
Cheers, Sheilah
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Re: Help to decipher an old BC
« Reply #16 on: Friday 05 March 10 16:23 GMT (UK) »
Pity its Edinburgh Sheilah, if it had been a country parish it would just be a matter of checking the placenames on a map. Lyon is probably Angus. the VD could even be a latin term-something God?..Skoosh.

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Re: Help to decipher an old BC
« Reply #17 on: Friday 05 March 10 16:33 GMT (UK) »
Lyon is probably Angus. the VD could even be a latin term-something God?..Skoosh.

How about Oh God we can't read it  ;D ;D ;D
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