Help please! I'm confused.

[bemmygirl]

I have a family Bible, with an ancestor (my  Dad's side) listed as violet maud Beale. D.O.B. 11 April 1875. she was illegitimate, and I've found her as a nurse-child (Violet Gribble)  on a previous census. her mother Eliza Gribble is buried in a family plot. I have her marriage certificate, to Thomas Henry Beal. a bricklayer  9th Nov 1889, showing her age then as 20 years old. (that means if she lied about her age or married very underage.)
My main query is: I've found her on the 1911 census as a widow, visiting in Bristol, however, my Grandfather , who I assumed was her son, was born 23rd march 1890, to Thomas Henry Bale (a bricklayer) but the mother was named on the Birth Certificate as Rosa (nee Mann). this is the date of my Grandfathers birth, it's also in the family Bible. How can Thomas be married to Violet in 1889 and have a wife called Rosa in 1890? with a verified link to my family? To add to the confusion, 2 of the witnesses of Violet and Thomas's marriage in 1889, were from the Mann family.
The family name has changed over the years, Beal/Beale/Bale.
I don't know how to unravel this...any ideas/help would be most appreciated.

[Ruskie]

First thought ... Violet and Rosa are one and the same? 

Are dates and places of birth the same for both Violet and Rosa?

[bemmygirl]

thanks for the reply, I'd thought about that, but Violet's surname was Gribble (her mother was Eliza Gribble) and Rosa's was Mann. It's really annoying me!

Sue

[Gartag]

and, for what it's worth, they are both flowery names.....

Garth

Hmmm  can't connect the Gribble - Mann though

[floggle toggle]

As for the age, see -  http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/famhist/genealgy/marr.htm

For Boys it was 14 and 12 for Girls!

[bemmygirl]

Thanks for all your thoughts! True, they are both  flowery names, and thanks floggle toggle, for the link to the marriageable ages, I didn't have a clue it was legal to marry so young. That's one problem solved.
any other thoughts I'd appreciate, I've never been so stuck!
Guess I need to unravel a few more threads....

sue

[janan]

Have you found them in 1891?

Jan

[Ruskie]

Do you have the marriage certificate of Thomas and Rosa Mann?

[janan]

Could you post more details for Violet please? Where was she born? Where was she in 1881 when you found her as Violet Gribble nursechild? I've failed to locate her

Am wondering if she was adopted by the Manns who preferred to call her Rosa??

Jan