rose/fraser

[nikitah]

hi I hope someone can help me, I have David Rose born about 1824  married Mary Fraser  At Boleskine 1850 I have most names and births for this couples children ,there are a few possabilities for Mary but I can't find anything for David, on his grave it says he died 1907  gardener,of Balnoe Farraline,marriage record does'nt give much away just as above and Mary daughter of Simon, mason, Tomovich? does anyone no anything about this family? I would be very grateful for any info as I've been trying to trace them for many years and don't seem to get any further kind regards Nikitah

[Annette7]

You can view David Rose's death certificate on Scotlands People and this should tell you the name of his parents.   I have not got any credits left but doing a search brings up just 1 David Rose died in 1907.

Annette

[nikitah]

Hi, Annette thanks for that, don't know how I mist it I've Got all my Scotish info from Scotlands people and think it's a great site. Many thanks Nikitah

[Annette7]

Hi Nikitah

Having looked at the census David is shown as born circa 1825 in Inverness itself. 

The 1841 Census - Chapel Street, Inverness, Invernesshire

David Rose      45   Baker       
Alexr. Rose      20   Baker
Magt. Rose      20
Sarah Rose      15
John Rose        15    Clerk
David Rose       15    Clerk
James Rose     14
George Rose     7
(all shown as born in Invernesshire plus remember that ages were rounded down in 1841 Census)
+ 2 female servants
+ 2 male Bakers Apprentices.

Only able to view a transcript.   Looked like David senior's wife had already died.  Then checked the IGI on familysearch and  found:

Alexander Rose bp.11/11/1818 Inverness, son David Rose and Sarah Ormiston.
Margaret Rose  bp.22/6/1820               ditto
Sarah Rose bp.24/4/1822                      ditto
John Rose bp.6/1/1824                         ditto
David Rose bp.12/10/1825                    ditto
James Rose bp.20/6/1827                     ditto
George Rose bp.27/8/1833                    ditto

Cannot find the marriage of David Rose and Sarah Ormiston on that site though.

The 1851 Census showed David senior was bc.1793 Kirkhill, Invernesshire and found:

David bp.2/1/1793 Kirkhill son of John Rose and Ann Fraser

and also found:

Sarah Ormiston bp.6/1/1794 Inverness, dau. of James Ormiston and Margaret MacBey.

Hopefully, the death certificate of David Rose in 1907 should confirm these were his parents.

Good luck.

Annette

[nikitah]

Hi,Annette you are brilliant,If this is the right family you will have solved my problems after 20 years of searching,thanks a million ,will try Scotlands People tomorrow,getting late now and too much to take in before bed. best regards Nikitah

[Annette7]

1851 Census - Boleskine, Invernesshire (Ref. SCT1851/20)

David Rose     28     b. Inverness
Mary Rose      26     b. Boleskine, Inv.
Margaret Fraser   sister in law 30   b. Boleskine
Mary Fraser  sister (? think transcription wrong and should read mother in law)
                64           Formerly Mason's wife       b. Dores, Inv.
Margaret Fraser   niece    14      b. Boleskine

Think this is Fraser family in 1841 (your Mary and sister Margaret not at home but could well have been working as servants somewhere).

1841 - Tomvoit, Boleskine & Abertarf, Inv. (Ref.SCT1841/92)

Mary Fraser     50     Poor
Alexander Fraser  20  Ag. Lab.
Janet Fraser  20
Margaret Fraser  5
John Fraser  20   Ag. Lab.  (all born Invernesshire)   

IGI shows:

Simon Fraser and Mary Fraser married 19/11/1803 Dores, Invernesshire

Children - all baptised at Boleskine:

John bp.30/11/1805
Margaret bp.14/3/1810
Hugh bp.1/9/1812
Alexander bp.5/3/1815
Thomas bp.7/4/1817
Janet bp.12/10/1819
Catherine bp.15/3/1822
Mary bp.25/7/1824

Annette

           

[nikitah]

hi Annette you have been working hard ,Idid have Mary Fraser born 25/7/1824 but this does'nt add up given that on everything I have David is about 2 years older and born in 1825'on their tomb stone she died 11 july 1870 age 45 any thoughts on that? thanks for everything else I'm going to put it all together and get back to Scotlands people as I think I now need to get Simon and Mary's marriage record.   best regards Nikitah 

[nikitah]

Hi, me again looked on S/P and only other I can find in time range is one born to Simon Fraser and Anne Chisholm at kiltarlity Inverness 26/9 1826 dates might fit and Fathers name but not mothers . regards Nikitah                  p.s. sorry names came from I.G.I.

[Annette7]

The death certificate of Mary Rose in 1870 clearly shows her parents are Simon Fraser, mason (dec'd) and Mary Fraser, m.s. Fraser (dec).

I note you cannot view David Rose's death certificate for 1907 so you need to order that because only on here will you find the details of both his parents.   You cannot take dates given on census as exactly correct unfortunately.   You could hypothesise forever about which David Rose baptism is the correct one - in this instance only his death certificate will confirm it for you.

Annette