Author Topic: Halpins of Co. Wicklow, Portarlington and Dublin City - Part 2  (Read 96129 times)

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow County, Portarlington County Laois, and Dublin City.
« Reply #225 on: Thursday 01 July 10 02:32 BST (UK) »
Reply 224, Ray:
I think that word is "superincumbent" meaning 'lying above', which
makes sense. (I looked it up, it's not part of my normal vocabulary)

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« Reply #226 on: Thursday 01 July 10 17:43 BST (UK) »
I don't think I will ever look at Custom House again without recalling the word "superincumbent", Ken.  Relieved to hear it's not part of your normal vocab.

On another matter - these tidbits may interest you.  From the House of Commons Parliamentary Papers.

1818 (294) 
Return of the names of the officers in the army, who receive pensions for the loss of limbs, or for wounds; specifying, the rank they held at the time they were wounded, their present rank, the nature of the cases, the places where, and the year when wounded, the amount of their pensions, and the dates from which they commence.
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1st Dragoon Guards - Sweny, John Paget - Captain - for wounds - Waterloo - 1815 - £100 - Commenced 19th June 1816.

Interestingly, and worth keeping in mind, I think, is this - a little further down the list:


9th Light Dragoons - Gore, George - Captain - Present rank: Lt Colonel - for wounds - Afzulghar, 1805 - £100 - 25th December 1811.

Why should this interest us?  Because the 9th Dragoons , led by Colonel Mahon and Major Dennis, were involved in one of the worst massacres in Irish history.  During the Rebellion in 1798, the 9th Dragoons ended up in Carlow town, where hundreds were slaughtered.  We know the Gores have a close association with the Halpins, and in 1798 were situated in and around Portarlington.  The rebels in Carlow were almost certainly intent on murdering many Protestant inhabitants of Carlow, and were expecting to be supported by a contingent of rebels from Portarlington, so a massacre of some sort appears to have been inevitable.  This incident puts into context the early and most impressionable years of the Reverend N J Halpin, who grew up to become a staunch Loyalist and editor of the High Tory newspaper the Dublin Evening Mail.  William Henry Halpin (the Rev.'s younger brother) on the other hand, became a committed Liberal - so early experience of violence and carnage does not necessarily determine your political outlook, only - perhaps - the fact that you will HAVE one.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow County, Portarlington County Laois, and Dublin City.
« Reply #227 on: Thursday 01 July 10 18:09 BST (UK) »

     This may also interest you, Ken - in 1831, after a convention on the matter (prompted by the anti-Slavery campaign led by Wilberforce, with the broad support of the British people?), Britain and France agreed to actively suppress the Slave Trade.  After notification of the affected parties, a number of ships were dispatched to enforce the terms of the convention.  From the little I've read of the correspondence, not many of the commanders believed they were doing the right thing.  They were very definitely merely following orders:

1833 (007)   Class A.  Correspondence with the British Commissioners, at Sierra Leone, Havana, Rio de Janeiro, and Surinam, relating to the slave trade.  1832  (HCPP)

In 1833, among the ships so dispatched to the "West Indian Station", were the Winchester, commanded by Captain Lord William Paget, and the Gannet - Commander Sweny.

Later, in a dispatch from the Marquess of Sligo to the Earl of Aberdeen, dated Highgate, Jamaica, 14th May 1835, we learn that the Marquess set sail for the Grand Caymanas in the Forte, accompanied by Commander Sweny in the Serpent.  Wasn't there a slave rebellion about that time in that part of the world?

At any rate - the info may or may not be of relevance to your Sweny forebears.  Cheers - R.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow County, Portarlington County Laois, and Dublin City.
« Reply #228 on: Friday 02 July 10 00:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Ray.
The two Swenys you mention in the last two posts are relevant. Their mother was Eliz. Halpen, daughter of Mark, and sister of Paget.
John Paget Sweny was badly wounded at Waterloo in 1815 and taken prisoner by the French. He received 17 sabre wounds, and the story goes that he was taken to be questioned by Napoleon, who ordered his own surgeon to attend to his wounds.
His brother, Mark Halpen Sweny, was a veteran of Trafalgar. It was not his first trip to the West Indies on the Gannet. In Nov.1830 he took Capt. Trefusis who was to sail the Winchester back from there. Also on board was Francis Austen jnr, brother of his friend Jane Austen. Lord Paget  was not related. There were plenty of slave rebellions but I can’t find any reference to any in the Caymans.
The Marquis of Sligo was a planter, and when England freed all slaves in 1834
(with conditions) he freed his slaves unconditionally. He became Governor of Jamaica in 1834. There's a town named after him- Sligoville.
As for Napoleon, the Swenys had the last word. He was exiled to the island of St.Helena in the Atlantic in 1815. Mark Sweny was the senior lieutenant on the ship which carried him there, the Northumberland.
Ken


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« Reply #229 on: Friday 02 July 10 17:44 BST (UK) »

     Marvellous response, Ken - an example of what a genealogical forum can produce at its best.

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« Reply #230 on: Friday 02 July 10 18:58 BST (UK) »
     As most will already know by now, the Rev. N J Halpin, Dr. Charles Halpin (of Cavan) and William Henry Halpin (journalist and satirist) were brothers born in Portarlington, Co. Laois in the 1790s.  All appear to have been men of social conscience and tremendous character.  My feeling is that Charles acted as a bit of a peace-maker between the Reverend and William Henry - both of whom occupied opposite ends of the political spectrum.  The Reverend was a Tory, and his younger brother William was a Whig.  Since we've never featured all three together, I thought I'd take the opportunity to do so today. 
     The first extract is from the introduction to an account of a meeting at Cavan which took place in 1827, at the height of the Second Reformation movement.  The Reverend N J Halpin - who was curate at Oldcastle, County Meath, at the time - wrote the introduction in response to accusations that recent Catholic conversions had been 'bought' with food or monetary inducements.  He wanted to set the record straight, I suppose.
     The second extract is a rather sad one, and speaks for itself, I think.  And the last extract, gleaned from a number of very long accounts of the trial of William Henry Halpin for libel, sheds light on a fascinating period in Irish and English history (when O'Connell was championing the Irish cause to the chagrin of the Reverend N J Halpin, who was a fierce opponent of O'Connell) and lets us in to the life of William Henry in a very intimate way.

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« Reply #231 on: Friday 02 July 10 19:01 BST (UK) »

     1A. 

AUTHENTIC REPORT
OF THE
SPEECHES AND PROCEEDINGS
OF THE
MEETING HELD AT CAVAN
ON THE 26TH JANUARY, 1827,

FOR THE PURPOSE OF FORMING A SOCIETY FOR PROMOTING

THE REFORMATION.

FOR WHICH ARE ADDED,
NOTES AND APPENDIX,

Containing many interesting Documents,

                                                                                     

EDITED BY
THE REV. N. J. HALPIN, A.B.

CURATE OF OLDCASTLE.

                                                                       

1827.


OFFICERS OF THE SOCIETY.
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« Reply #232 on: Friday 02 July 10 19:04 BST (UK) »


1B.

PRESIDENT,
THE RIGHT HON. LORD FARNHAM.

COMMITTEE,
HENRY MAXWELL, ESQ MP.
ROBERT SAUNDERSON, ESQ.
BEDEL STANFORD, ESQ.
GEORGE MARSHAL KNIPE, ESQ.
ANDREW BELL, ESQ.
SAMUEL MOORE, ESQ.
FRANCIS THOMPSON, ESQ.
WILLIAM GRAHAM, ESQ.
MICHAEL BABINGTON, ESQ.
THE CLERGY WHO ARE SUBSCRIBERS.

TREASURER,
THE REV. GEORGE SPAIGHT.

SECRETARY,
THE REV.  JAMES COLLINS.


PREFACE.
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« Reply #233 on: Friday 02 July 10 19:07 BST (UK) »


     1C.

Having enjoyed peculiar opportunities of observing the commencement and progress of the Reformation begun at Cavan, and now extending to every part of Ireland, it was my intention to have published a brief outline of the principal circumstances of this great moral revolution; of the causes which gave it birth, and the means employed in its advancement.  For this purpose, I had collected, by personal observation, and from the reports of ear and eye witnesses, the most authentic information.  The speeches, however, delivered at the meeting held in Cavan to promote the progress of the Reformation - and particularly the very able and luminous detail of Lord Farnham, have so completely anticipated the information I had procured, and in a form at once so much more popular and authentic, that I have thought it better to abandon my original design, and content myself with giving to the public the only full and corrected report of the very important proceedings of that day that has issued from the press.  The speeches have all been revised with great care.  Much, that, from the limits of a newspaper report, was originally ommitted, is here restored.  A detail of several most interesting circumstances, which the lateness of the hour to which the meeting was protracted, prevented the seconder of one of the resolutions from delivering in the form of a speech, will be found in a letter addressed to the noble chairman, by his Lordship's domestic chaplain; and I have added an Appendix, containing many valuable documents, which I thought necessary, either to explain some allusions in the speeches, or to rebut some calumnious accusations with which the enemies of this good cause have not failed to manifest its importance, and their uneasy forebodings of the certainty of its final triumph. 
     To the information contained in the speeches, I have added, in the form of notes, some interesting facts, which tend to show the prevalent feelings of a large body of our Roman Catholic countrymen.  They are eager for information - they thirst after scriptural knowledge - and whenever they do attain it, almost invariably perceive the errors of the church; and secretly condemn, though they may not yet have the courage to renounce the fopperies and superstitions into which they were born, and to which they have remained attached, from no conviction of their truth, but through ignorance of a better and surer way of salvation.
     In opening the way for the moral regeneration of Ireland, Cavan has taken a distinguished lead.  Here first the Reformation dawned in Ireland.  Here the Apostolic Bedel laboured to diffuse the knowledge of God's word; and having translated the Gospel into the vernacular language of the country, strewed the seed, which, though tardy in its growth, promises, in the present generation, an abundant harvest.  But the spirit of reformation is not confined to Cavan.  The list of conversions in various parts of the country (which will be found in the following pages) shows that a similar tendency very generally prevails, and that every county in Ireland has already furnished its first fruits, nearly in proportion as its circumstances were favourable or adverse to the development of religious principles.  There were many circumstances, however, in the situation of Cavan, and the relative position of its Protestant and Roman Catholic population, which naturally gave it the advantage at the outset of the work.  The numerical preponderance of Romanists does not exceed two and a half to one Protestant; whilst in every other respect - in intelligence, information, wealth and rank, the Protestants enjoy such a superiority as more than counterbalances the defect of numbers.  Roman Catholics, therefore, who felt convinced of the errors of their profession, were enabled boldly to profess the truth, because they were certain of protection in life and property; and it is a consideration of no small weight with the convert, as yet librating between the pangs of an awakened conscience, and the dread of persecution, to know that, in the free exercise of his Christian liberty, he will be countenanced by an intelligent and loyal yeomanry, encouraged by the gentry of his neighbourhood; and protected from the rage and violence of the communion he has abandoned, by the power and influence of a nobleman of Lord Farnham's rank and consideration.  Circumstances such as these have cheered and comforted the fearful, and determined many a wavering mind; and the security thus afforded has considerably tended to augment the numbers who, at the doubtful twilight of this glorious day, have conformed in Cavan Church.  Were circumstances equally favourable elsewhere, there can scarcely be a doubt of results equally important.  That Lord Farnham and the members of his family have, in this manner, contributed to the rapid development of the Reformation, wherever their influence extended, is a fact as notorious as the Reformation itself.  But to say that they or others have held forth worldly inducements, or