Halpins of Co. Wicklow, Portarlington and Dublin City - Part 2

[mkent]

Thanks Ray, I knew there were Kennedys somewhere along the line, but the only names I could remember were Cousin Gertie and a 'Frank'.  I do have a feeling though that some were on the Isle of Wight.

[BillW]

Marie, given the family's tendency to call people by their middle names  (e.g. Adelaide Maude was Aunt Maude), do you think Gilbert was Frances' son Richard Stopford Gilbert Halpin, born 1889.  I have noted the following:  The engagement is announced, and the marriage will shortly take place, between Dr. R.S.G. Halpin, Wallington, Surrey, son of the late Dr. R.F.B. Halpin, Arklow, and Miss Kathleen Ballance, elder daughter of Mr. And Mrs. G.W. Ballance, Gresford, Denbighshire.  [Irish Times, July 23rd 1935.]

Presuming so, I will add Aileen and Bessie as his sisters.  Their father was a doctor in Arklow.

I see now that I had noted from somewhere a probate record: Halpin, Richard Frederick Bestall - Physician/surgeon, Arklow Co. Wicklow...d. 19th Oct. 1903, estate granted to Susanna Frances Halpin of Stokerville, Dalkey Co. Dublin (widow), lawful guardian of Aileen Grace Gilbert Halpin 16 yrs, Stopford Richard Gilbert Halpin 15 yrs, Frances Elisabeth Gilbert Halpin 13 yrs.

From the same source I had noted Frances' probate: Halpin, Frances E, Reenmore Arklow, wife of Richard EB Halpin (MD), appoints her father John Gilbert, her cousin the Rev. Thomas White Manning, sister-in-law Nannie Caldour Halpin and sister Sidney Tomasina Gilbert.  Witnesses Rose Undrell (?) and Polly Gilbert....17th July 1897.  Frances dies at Beaumont, Terenure Road, Dublin.

Dr Richard and Frances had died young so his mother, Susanna Frances (Bestall), apparently became guardian of the children, Aileen, Gilbert and Bessie.  I some time ago attached a photo of their graves at Mount Jerome Cemetery, Dublin.  I believe the link is http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,270348.30.html.

I note the mention of the Kennedys but I don't know where they fit in yet.  Bill

Thanks Bill, I have just been able to look at the family tree you sent, so my Great Great Grandmother was Eliza Bradleu of CO.Carlow, there were photos of her and George Halpin in my Grandmother's house when I was a child and I hate to confess this but I think I threw them away when I was clearing the house! Back to the tree, there are several names missing, Aileen and Bessie Halpin and their brother Gilbert were my Grandmothers cousins, I think their mother must have been Francis Gilbert, Gilbert had two children, Maureen and Richard, I lost touch with them years ago, the last I heard of Richard he was a Captain in the Cheshire Regiment late 60's early 70's.  Also somewhere there were Kennedys, when I was about 10 we attended the opening of the Halpin Maritime exhibition and I met 'Cousin Gertie Kennedy' a very old lady who had an ear trumpet!  |Thanks to everyone for all their information.   

[mkent]

Thanks Bill, Yes, that would be Gilbert, Kathleen was his second wife I think, Richard's mother, Aileen and Bessie were brought up be seperate relatives, one of them be Aunt Vi, who I met once, she is mentioned on the tree you sent.  Your message solved another query for me, nothing to do with Halpins, but with Betty Manning in Wicklow who I always looked on as a surrogate Grandmother, she always said she wass related to Aileen and Bessie and I see Francis' cousin was a Manning.  This is all fascinating!  Marie

[BillW]

I have found that Gilbert first married in early 1914 in the Rathdown registration district but the type of record I can view does not reveal his wife's name.  There is a reference for it if anyone wants to order the certificate and find out.  (It is Marriages Rathdown district Jan-Mar 1914 Vol 2 p.752.)

After that Marie, I am getting a little confused, I'm sorry.  So you think Richard was Gilbert's second wife Kathleen's child.  The marriages were 20 years apart so Richard was much younger than his half sibling/s.  So Maureen was a child of his first marriage? 

Aileen and Bessie were Gilbert's sisters, weren't they?  If they were farmed out to aunts such as Vi, I suspect the other aunt would have been Nannie Caldour Halpin.

Lastly, if you wanted to look up Thomas White Manning's marriage to see whom his wife may have been and therefore the connection, the certificate for that could be ordered, reference Marriages Dublin South 1875 Vol 7 p.568.  Bill.

[BillW]

While doing the above searches, I noticed that a Gilbert Halpin, female aged 40, immmigrated at New York from the port of Liverpool in 1923.

Also, Stopford John Halpin and his wife Geraldine Bond had at least one other child, Louise Frances Halpin born 1 Sep 1898 because there is a record of her death in Vancouver BC, single aged 78 on 22 Mar 1977.

And a Stopford Halpin, married aged 37, immigrated through New York in 1903, sailed from the port of Londonderry, which would be Stopford John above.  The record does not show children.  I have their son Stopford Richard Arthur dying aged 13 in 1908, presumably in the US or Canada.  Bill.

[BillW]

Sorry to be hogging the pages but I am on a proverbial roll.  It all stems from Marie’s marvellous arrival in our midst.

Marie, you had an uncle, Robert Grey Kent, born 1894.  There is an incomplete record, in which the child's name has not been recorded (or is illegible to the transcribers), of a female child born 17 Dec 1864 at Ashford, Wick(low), father George Kent (which we knew to be your grandfather Robert John’s father’s name) and Jane Grey (quite a historic name!).  I feel sure that this is your great grandmother.

The same unnamed child to George Kent and Jane (no surname) is born 17 Dec 1864 (same day) recorded as Dunganstown Wick(low?).  By the nature of such record transcripts, this could be the same child, not necessarily a twin.  This unnamed female birth is also recorded a third time clearly stating the birth is in Wicklow and the mother is Jane Grey.

I have not come across the birth of this child's brother, your grandfather Robert John Kent, but I do have a recording of his marriage from the Wicklow C of I registers (did Maeve give us this?): 31st Dec. 1889 The marriage of Robert John Kent, Bachelor, of Claremont Villa, occupation Miller, son of George Kent, Merchant, & Georgina A Halpin, Spinster, The White House, Wicklow, daughter of George H Halpin, Surgeon & Physician.  Witnesses: Samuel Herbert Kent & James H. Halpin.

Was Claremont Villa in Ashford or in Wicklow?  Was Samuel Herbert Kent Robert's brother?

And Robert John Kent’s death is recorded as in Oct-Dec 1932 in the Rathdrum registration district, age given as 69 which, if reliable, indicates he was born about 1863, the year before his unnamed sister above.

Lastly, also found is the marriage in Oak Bay BC Canada of your uncle John Mason Kent to Eileen Nora Allen in 1923.  It says that they were both born in Wicklow.  Her father was John Walsh Allen and mother Sarah Hunter.  You can inspect at http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#givenName=robert%20john&surname=kent&searchType=close&p=recordResults.
Bill.

[BillW]

Samuel Mason Kent death Rathdrum reg. dist. 1908 aged 51, estimated year of birth 1857.  Samuel Mason Kent married 1884 Dublin South reg. dist.  Robert John Kent's second son was named John Mason Kent.  I can find no records for a Samuel Herbert Kent.  What is the origin of the name Mason? 

Henry John Sutton b.1879 Wicklow, parents William Sutton, Maria Mason.  There are literally hundreds of Mason bdms just in Wicklow but this one caught my attention.  Bill.

[Diane Carruthers]

I have Stopford John Halpin's death certificate from the B.C. archives and it states that when he died in 1944 he had been in Canada for 30 years.

Diane

While doing the above searches, I noticed that a Gilbert Halpin, female aged 40, immmigrated at New York from the port of Liverpool in 1923.

Also, Stopford John Halpin and his wife Geraldine Bond had at least one other child, Louise Frances Halpin born 1 Sep 1898 because there is a record of her death in Vancouver BC, single aged 78 on 22 Mar 1977.

And a Stopford Halpin, married aged 37, immigrated through New York in 1903, sailed from the port of Londonderry, which would be Stopford John above.  The record does not show children.  I have their son Stopford Richard Arthur dying aged 13 in 1908, presumably in the US or Canada.  Bill.

[mkent]

Gilbert Halpin's wife Kathleen was a schoolgirl when she first met him, she used to tell her friend about the nice young Dr, his wife and little daughter, the schoolfriend was my Betty Manning, Gilberts cousin! so their was a big age gap between Maureen and Richard.  I do know more about the Kents as my Dads cousin traced the tree.  The name Mason comes from my Great Great Grandmother Margaret Mason of Prestwich, Lancashire. Samuel Mason was Robert Johns brother, there is no mention of Samuel Herbert, but Samuel Masons nephew was Mason Samuel.  The child you mention would be Jane Mary Kent, born 17.12.1864 at Brittas Bay, died at Southport England 17.4. 1937, the name was originally Keent. there is an idea floating around that they came from Holland, but I have no idea is that is true.