Halpins of Co. Wicklow, Portarlington and Dublin City - Part 2

[BillW]

As far as I can discover, Moneystown, where the Eatons granted leases, is the adjacent village to Kilmullin where the Halbert family are recorded some years later.  I don't know which is the local C of I parish church but you would think it likely that the Eatons and Halberts may figure in the records there.

There seems to be a direct road east from there to Coolawinna, just on the other side of Ashford, where the Cotters are recorded.

Maybe our Halpin family came earlier from around this part of Wicklow, to the north of Wicklow Town.

Bill.

[kenneth cooke]

Bill,
Re my reply 105-
John Halpin, bookseller died Nov 1810 and was survived by his wife Jane (Hamer).
Was he the same as John Halpen of Woodville Q.C.?
The different addresses are no problem as affluent people from the country
often had a 'town house' in Dublin, and Dublin people often had a country house.
I decided to recheck the latter J.H., hoping to find him alive after Nov.1810, and thereby eliminating him from the picture.
But the last mention of him was from Cavan Old news, a list of game licences isued in Maryborough. John Halpin, of Woodville took out a cert. for killing game. The list is from 25.3.1810 to 18.9.1810.
So we still can't be sure. As for the different wife, perhaps the source of the
Book Trade list was unaware that he had remarried, and had assumed the wife that survived him was Jane, but in fact it was Eliz.Swettenham nee Toone.
Ken

[kenneth cooke]

Recapitulation:
I have had a lot of help on this forum to sort out my branch of the Halpens from Queen’s County for which I’m very grateful. I’d like to recapitulate:
Mark Halpen, my 5xGr grandfather, b.abt 1710 was from Bally(na)money Q.C.
This is probably the modern day Ballymooney, 4 km. east of Maryborough.
He was noted in the 1760 Voters List for M’borough at Ballymoney.
He was named as the father of Elizabeth Halpen, of Ballynamony when she married in 1777.
Paget Halpen lived at Ballynamony in 1786. Most likely Mark had died, and Paget, b. abt 1740, was the eldest son, and Elizabeth’s brother.
The name Paget had been in the family since 1682 or earlier.
There is no sign of ‘Paget’ as a verified surname at any time.

Speculation:
I have rechecked, but I am not at all clear about Nicholas, headmaster of Portarlington School. He is said to have been the brother of John, bookseller & publisher, born 1764, but also the grandfather of Nicholas John, b. 1790. If the latter is correct, he must have been born about 1740, making him 24 years older than John.
It has been suggested that he came from another county to start the school, during the education boom in Portarlington. In any case he was active in Queen’s County.
Nicholas is not really a common name. Is it possible that he is descended from Nicholas (Generosus) b. abt 1650, father of Padgett Halpenny of T.C.D. who was born in 1682 ?
If born about 1740, he could be a brother or cousin of Paget & Eliz. Halpen.
They were children of Mark, who was probably the son or nephew of Padgett b. 1682.
This would make Nicholas, the headmaster, a great grandson and namesake of Nicholas Generosus.
All comments welcome. I’ll be waiting for someone to shoot me down.
Ken 
 
 
 

[BillW]

I have reported this before but in Wilsons Dublin Directory for the Year 1801, under Merchants, Traders &c, are listed

LELAND CROSTHWAIT at 28 Bridge Street, wholesale bookseller and printer
John Halpen, bookseller and stationer at 19 Sackville Street
Paget Halpin, engraver, is at 32 Mecklenburgh Street
Halpins and Hannon, distillers, are in Petticoat Lane
Halpin, Mary & Martha, Haberdashers, 5 Mecklenburgh Street.

Bill

[BillW]

Anyone with an interest in the family of Frederick James Halpin and Maria Howse seen the following?

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=168-xans&cid=5#5

Bill

[BillW]

Are any of the following of interest?  They cost a small amount of money for a copy.  Bill

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=6609922

Probably the will of Rebecca Woodriff, widow of John Edmund halpin:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=90308

More on the Halpin/Howse family:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=168-xans&cid=1#1

Or:  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?queryType=1&resultcount=1&Edoc_Id=595016

I think this may be the missing son John of William Halpin:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=059-iorlag_3-2_2&cid=1-1-1-1-586#1-1-1-1-586

Bill

[BillW]

The IFHS has advised that it has many Wicklow parish register entries available online (for a fee but freely searchable).  http://wicklow.brsgenealogy.com/.

From 1720 - 1800 there are about 30 Halbert baptisms, 13 Cotters, including Eaton Cotter in 1757, and 2 female Eatons.  Over the same 80 year span, there are 2 Halpins, Maria in 1741 and Richard in 1799; there are about 70 Halfpenny and Halpenny variant baptisms and no Halpen.

Of the Halfpennys, there is no George, a very few Williams (1781, 1792) and James (1786, 1788), a few others earlier.  The available Wicklow Town C of I parish records are among the oldest existing but these records are for all available County Wicklow registers, Catholic and C of I.  The website publishes its list of sources.

I am becoming more confirmed in my belief that the Halpin family that we know of in Wicklow Town did not go there until James married Ann Halbert, whose family definitely did come from there.  It is more probable that they came from elsewhere in County Wicklow that has poor surviving church records.

The Halbert family had property west of Ashford, at Kilmullin.  The Wicklow Halpins could have come from near there, or from Bray, or even from near the Carlow/Kildare border.  It may take a fluke to find out.  Three of my Halpin family, in the 1800s, found brides in Carlow and I even then wondered if the family had some connection to that area.

However, William Halpin, paymaster, his son William of the Madras NI, and the George Halpin whose 1800 army discharge I reported a few days ago, all give their birthplace as Wicklow, George's even perhaps incorrectly showing Wicklow, Wicklow.

One perhaps remote possibility is that, before coming aboard the established church, they were Presbyterians.  Evidence seems to suggest that the family of Leland Crosthwait were Presbyterian.  (Search the IGI for "Leland Crosthwait".)

Of course they could have come from Queen's County but why did so many profess to come from Wicklow?

The fascinatingly evasive Halpin family.

Bill

[Bigbird68]

Family of Captain William Halpin

Back again, now having visited Kensal Green Cemetery (thanks BillW). With a little difficulty, I found the two Halpin graves there, lying stones, almost buried (needed to borrow a spade from the gardeners to uncover the main grave (see photos attached)! Inscriptions were very difficult to read in parts on very soft stone. I have re-buried the inscriptions in order to preserve them.

Grave 1 inscriptions:  Here lies Captain William Halpin. Light Dragoons KGL Died  .... 1862
         and his daughter Sophia Halpin died 5 November 1862

         on the other side: Major General William Halpin
               son of Captain William Halpin died . . . . 1865

Grave 2 inscription:       Colonel George Halpin ??Madras . . . ."
         Second son of Capt William Halpin ?Kings German Legion?
            Died 22 November 1891

According to the burial records the first grave ("with ledger and railing") was granted to William Halpin on 5th Novemebr 1862 for £3,3, of No 39 Leinster Square, Bayswater, Middx. Captn in Army; Sophia Halpin was buried on 5th November 1862 (aged 51), Captain William Halpin was buried on 31st December 1862 (aged 85); Major General William Halpin was buried on 28th April 1865 (aged 60). Also in this grave is Anna Halpin who was buried on 26 July 1867 but for whom there appears to be no inscription.

The second grave, which was higher above ground ("cross ledger and rail on a landing"), was granted to Robert H Halkett of 47 Broadhurst Gardens, London, on 24 November 1891 and contains only Colonel George Halpin. Robert Halkett was the husband of Eleanor Sophie Halpin, daughter of the Rev. Robert Crawford Halpin and granddaughter of Captain William Halpin (Neice of Colonel George Halpin); Robert Halkett was a bank manager and died himslf in 1896 aged 43. Thus from this grave we have another son of Captain William Halpin of the KGL, George, b 1808 - presumably the George born 1807 in the Dublienses Alumni, said to have been born in Dublin, father William, Armiger (soldier)?

Two more photos and more on this family in my next post.

[Bigbird68]

Re: Family of Captain William Halpin 2

Colonel George Halpin:  From the East India Register and Army List of 1855 George Halpin was a Major in the 25th Regiment Native Infantry of the Madras Army, appointed to the regiment in 1825 (aged about 17), made Major in the Regiment 21 June 1853. From the same Register, his elder brother William Halpin was a Major in the 26th Regiment Native Infantry, Madras Army, appointed to the regiment in 1820, Major in the Regiment 10 November 1846 and Lieutenant Colonel in the Army  from 20 June 1854 and in command of his regiment. George Halpin was appointed Lieutenant Colonel on 14 January 1859 (London Gazette) and full Colonel 31 December 1861.
From his grave, he was the second son of Captain William Halpin, born about 1808; from the Census for 1881 he was living at 54 Belsize Park in Hampstead, London with three servants as "Retired Colonel of Army" aged 70, born Tullamore, Ireland; in 1891 he was staying as a guest with the Earl Of Lanesborough (Captain, retired, Royal Navy) and his family at Swithland in Leicestershire, aged 80, as "Colonel of HM Indian Army", born Kings County, Tullamore, Ireland. (I believe Kings County is now County Offaly). He died in November 1891 in Hampstead. With reference to his place of birth, the 1st Regiment of Dragoons of the King's German Legion, in which his father Captain William Halpin was serving as Paymaster, was based at Tullamore from August 1807 (25 officers, 6 staff officers, some 600 men and 638 horses). There was an incident between troopers of the KGL and local Irish Militia in Tullamore in which a number were wounded and two died.

Colonel William Halpin, George's elder brother, was made Major General in 1861: "Officers of Her Majesty's Indian Military Forces retired upon full pay to have step in honorary rank as follows: Colonel William Halpin, Madras Infantry, to be Major General, 8 October 1861". [Bill your cadet William Halpin is most probably this one; note WM can be abbreviation for William].

I have also come across the reference to Captain Richard Halpin of the 49th Foot, died 21st March 1839 (BillW Post #76) but had no link from this to Captain William Halpin of the KGL. Was William Halpin of Castle Forbes Dublin the same and if so why no title? Again it is quite possible that the John Halpin of the Madras Army, born 3 July 1805, died 30 November 1848 may be another son of Captain William Halpin of the KGL.

More on some other Halpins in my next post.