Halpins of Co. Wicklow, Portarlington and Dublin City - Part 2

[BillW]

It seems the receivers are in.  Shall we pass the hat around?  Has the GFC done it in?  

It seems Ray will be paying a visit shortly to reclaim our inheritances.  But failing that, could he and Julia take some photos of the Inn and the gravestone enclosure (if the weather is agreeable) for the files of us a million miles away.  If they could be saved to  PDF file, like my trees, they wouldn't clutter the list.

Bill

Hi Raymond,

 The Bridge Tavern & Guest House, Bridge Street, South Quay, Wicklow Town
A substantial Landmark Licenced Premises and adjoining 10 bedroom Guest House"

If you are visiting Wicklow perhaps you may be interested in the fact, 'The Bridge Tavern is for sale by private treaty.  Perhaps the locals may think you are interested in investing!! See Wicklow People Wednesday 10th March 2010. p.50. property[at]morrisseys.ie. You must be quick as "Full and final offers to be submitted on or before Monday 22nd March 2910 at 4 pm".

Julia

[Shanachai]

Just a quickie, Ken, to file away for a later date - my great great grandfather R W Halpin masterminded a seditious act in an attempt to screw Wicklow aristocrat Gun Cunningham out of his properties.  There's a fantastic report done on the incident by a few Royal Commissioners, complete with minutes of evidence.  The date is about 1877.  I'm wondering if Gun Cunningham was descended from Robert Cuninghame.  If so, Robert C must have fought for Crown forces, and been rewarded for his service with a grant of title over Wicklow land and property?  I'll be addressing the issue when I eventually get back to the Wicklow Halpins.  Cheers, R.

[kenneth cooke]

I doubt it Ray. It’s a very long shot. One of the descendants of Wm Toone & Mary Sweeny married a  Cuninghame. They were ‘a fine family’ and would have been well aware of the origin of the name. It does not mean a sly pig ! 
It comes from Middle English “kyning hām”  pronounced approx. [kooning hame] which meant the home or place of the king.
Ken
   

[Shanachai]

Ah, it was a longshot.

[kenneth cooke]

Thanks Ray,
A bug in the system- should have been 'ham' with an accent, a flat, horizontal
line over the 'a' to make it 'hame' but anyway-
It's a snob thing to stick to the archaic spelling, so the Cuninghames would have looked down on the 'sly pigs', just as the Cokes looked down on the Cooks and Cookes, even though the pronunciation was the same.
But maybe you had a point, C'hame got an Irish title. Worth checking up on.
Ken

[tompion]

Hi All,

Back to Rev Nicholas John Halpin and his botanical interests. Hope it hasn't been mentioned before but found an article, which I haven't seen, about him:

CUMULATIVE INDEX TO GLASRA AND OCCASIONAL PAPERS
OF THE NATIONAL BOTANIC GARDENS, GLASNEVIN, DUBLIN, 1976 – 1998.

GLASRA new series 2(2) (1995) publication date 3. vii. 1995

Reilly, P.A. (author)  Nicholas John Halpin (1790-1850): a little known Irish botanist pp.165-177.

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I also found a Nicholas John Halpin who qualified MD from TCD in 1880. Bit confused by this as the only NJH that would fit was the one born 1851 but I thought a surveyor who died unmarried in India:

British Medical Association Feb 7th 1880

UNIVERSITY OF DUBLIN. At the Winter Commencements, held on
Wednesday, December I7th, I879, in the Examination Hall of Trinity
College, the following Degrees in Medicine and Surgery were conferred
by the University Caput.

Doctors in Medicine.-Thomas Kinley Hamilton, Nicholas John Halpin, Edmund Sharkey, William Alexander Fitzgerald, and Stephen Flood (in absentia).

Brian

[Shanachai]

There are quite a few Halpin boys graduating from Trinity right up to the 1920s, after which they seem to vanish for the most part - I think they and their families moved abroad, to England mostly, before and after the war of independence.  I've never taken the time to find out more about them - this new chap, N J Halpin, is someone I know nothing about.

As for the new article on the botanical habits of the Reverend - I'll see what I can find out.  Cheers Brian, R.

[bray]

If Mark HALPIN and Mary PAGET  only married in 1750.
How did Lieut PAGET HALPIN get his name if he was born in 1740?
Surely it's reasonable to think  that it is a combination of their names or have I missed something!

The name PAGEZ (Paget !)was recorded as being that of a Huguenot soldier in Co. Laois in the 1600's. Once again I have mislaid the source but still trying to find it.

[kenneth cooke]

Maureen,
Where did you get 1750 ?
In my post on the old (Halpin Wicklow Forum) No. 202 I said 'Mark H. & Mary Paget mar. about 1740' and Paget was born abt 1740.
In fact, there's no proof that Mark or Mary existed, while there are many references to Paget Halpen.
I agree, P.H. would seem to come from the surnames of Mark & Mary (if they
existed).
But, we have found a Pagitt Halpenny of Queens Co., so the name Paget was in the family 60 years earlier.
Personally, I'm beginning to think that it was a put up job. You start with the desired result, i.e. a fine family to land in, then cook the books to get into that family.
There are other examples of this in the Sweny pedigree. I think someone has looked at the names Paget & Halpen and decided that they must be the parents' names of Eliz Halpen, who married Eugene Sweny.
Anyway we haven't proved anything yet.
Ken