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Re: Halpins of Wicklow County, Portarlington County Laois, and Dublin City.
« Reply #243 on: Tuesday 13 July 10 20:13 BST (UK) »
1A.

     Below are a few brief extracts from an account of the imprisonment of Thomas Mathew Halpin, who was arrested by Dublin Castle (seat of the British administration in Ireland) on suspicion of being heavily involved in the Young Ireland Uprising in 1848.  Halpin has since been dismissed by Irish historians as a "piker" - that's an Australian term usually applied to someone who caves in under pressure.  Halpin is considered by Irish historians as primarily at fault for failing to order clubmen (thousands of ordinary citizens dedicated to the liberation of Ireland) to rise up in conjunction with the Young Ireland leader - William Smith O'Brien - with the aim of overpowering British garrisons.  Halpin's account of what actually happened has been, as far as I know, completely ignored.  It seems the British slander - that he was an informer - has deceived the very people who consider themselves to be reliable interrogators of all Castle claims.  Maybe it's time Halpin was rehabilitated.  As for T M Halpin's connection to us - it has yet to be proved.  He was a young man of unimpeachable integrity and it seems a real shame that he remains an overlooked and misrepresented figure in Irish history. 

A Disclosure Connected With The Late State Prosecutions In Ireland; With A Narrative Of Seven Months Imprisonment Under The Habeas Corpus Suspension Act By Thomas Matthew Halpin, Secretary Of The Irish Confederation. Dublin 1849.
To The Men Of Ireland
These pages are dedicated as a lesson from the past, which may be a warning for the future, by their Friend and Brother...

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow County, Portarlington County Laois, and Dublin City.
« Reply #244 on: Tuesday 13 July 10 20:16 BST (UK) »
1B.

The following expose...was written during my imprisonment in Kilmainham gaol.  I must confess, that insofar as those facts relate to myself personally, I would prefer that they should remain in obscurity; for notwithstanding all the efforts of the hangers-on of the Castle – the animals who did the dirty work for Brown – aided by the black sheep of the press, who for some months did their best to impress the public mind with the idea that I had been “subsidized” by the crown, I do not believe that I need now publish one line of this narrative to vindicate my character; though I admit, that when I commenced the task, this was one of the motives which impelled me to it.  But, after enduring upwards of seven months close and painful imprisonment – three months of which I passed in solitary confinement, subject to all the persecutions which the petty malignity of slavish and little-minded officials could suggest – I do not conceive any vindication necessary.
But I believe the relation of those facts now, will serve the cause of truth and justice – that they will tend to teach Irishmen the folly of mistrust and suspicion; that the knowledge they will attain from their perusal, will help to inspire them with that confidence in each other’s truth, without which they need never hope to succeed in any national struggle.  For I believe one of the principal causes of the disasters of ’48 was the people’s want of confidence in their leaders, and in each other.

[At this point I skip forward to part of Halpin's wife's testimony - she has a good deal to tell about how Augustus Guy - a Castle detective employed in G Division (a 'G man') - attempted to induce her to co-operate with the British and inform on her husband's colleagues]

We went away without making him [Guy] any reply, but on the following day, the 9th September, a messenger came to my father’s, to say that Mr. Guy wished to see me particularly.  My father replied that I was not in town, and that I should not again go to him; but a friend who happened to be present, advised strongly that I should go, as I was desirous of getting an order to visit my husband [in prison], and that I could easily conceal my feelings, without promising anything, until I got the order, which, once given by Mr. Redington, would scarcely be withdrawn, otherwise I might not be able to see my husband again during his imprisonment.  Accordingly I was sent for by my father out to Ranelagh, where I was residing, and told the circumstance.  From what I had suffered in Belfast, I was strongly inclined to take the advice of my father’s friend; so I came into town, and went to Guy’s office in the Lower Castle Yard, where I was told he was expecting me.  He invited me upstairs to a private apartment, where his wife was sitting, engaged in some needlework.  He then told me that the order for me to see my husband had gone down to the governor of Naas gaol; ‘but’, he said, ‘we cannot do much, as the governor is an independent man, but I suppose he will not like to disoblige the government.’  He then went on to say: ‘We are desirous of obtaining Mr. Halpin’s services on the forthcoming trials, but we merely want him to prove to the minutes of the Council, and if he will do so, his family, and your father, and all your sisters, and, in fact, any friends whom you wish, shall be sent out of the country to any part of the world you like, free, with thousands of pounds in your pockets; yes,’ he said, repeating it, ‘thousands of pounds’.  Your father, he went on to say, ‘is an old fool; he would try to make me believe that they had no illegal object in view – alarming the citizens with their nightly marchings of clubmen; but Mr. Halpin is, I suppose,’ said he, ‘a man of sense, a man of the world, having a true regard for his own interests and the welfare of his family.  I believe that his principles were not involved,’ said he, ‘in the late proceedings, as I have read his application for the situation of secretary, in which he apologises and assigns reasons for not having taken a very active part in the agitation prior to that.’
     He used many more persuasive arguments which I now forget, striving to show why my husband could, nay ought to give, his services to the government, and ridiculed the romantic notions which he said some persons entertained about honour and fidelity, and all that sort of thing; at the same time he said your husband can give all the information we require, and then get himself produced as a witness for the defence; ‘they’ll throw him overboard,’ said he, ‘and we’ll take him up.’

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow County, Portarlington County Laois, and Dublin City.
« Reply #245 on: Tuesday 13 July 10 20:18 BST (UK) »
1C.

[Again I jump forward to T M Halpin's Comment on his wife's testimony]

My wife’s narrative requires no comment from me; I give it to the world as I received it, and will merely content myself with directing the particular attention of the reader to it, asking him to ponder well on the account which she gives of her several interviews with this chief detective, and to observe the cunning with which he, at the first interview, strove to win upon her confidence by his skilful affectation of sympathy for me; and then his efforts to excite her cupidity to give up the minute-book, and deceive me.  Afterwards his attempt to intimidate her and her mother, by trying to make them believe the vast amount of information he possessed, not only with regard to the Clubs generally but to their nearest and dearest relatives; and then his promises that I and my family, &c., should be sent free to any part of the world, or should be established in comfort and independence for life, in one of the colonies, and landed with thousands of pounds.  It may be said, perhaps, that Mr. Guy had no authority to make such offers, and the government knew nothing whatever about his proceedings.  Perhaps so; but I confess I am rather sceptical upon the point; and why?  Reader I will tell you.  Guy’s brilliant offers, Guy’s rascally intimidation had failed to produce any effect – the party to whom the offers had been made goes down to Clonmel, and informs the prisoner’s counsel of the entire proceeding; she leaves her husband in the gaol of Naas, a solitary prisoner, in a miserable, damp cell, but where Mr. Redington’s order permitted her to see him daily.  On her arrival in Clonmel she is sent for by one of the crown lawyers, and asked, now that her husband’s character is destroyed in the eyes of his own party, will he give evidence and accept the offers made to him.  If Guy had made those offers from himself alone why did Mr. Dunne ask my wife would I then consent to accept them?  He then threatens her with my transportation.  Transportation for what?  Is it for conspiring to overthrow her Majesty’s crown and government?  Is it for open and advised speaking?  No, it is not for having been guilty of either of those atrocious felonies; it is because her husband “will not accept our offers,” will not become “independent,” and live in comfort to the end of his days, with “thousands of pounds in his pocket, in a beautiful colony, one of the finest countries in the world.”
     ...I began to suffer severely in my health from my long and close confinement in that gaol, having been three months in a small cell entirely alone, and never being allowed near a fire, I wrote up to Mr. Redington [the Under Secretary of State for Ireland], stating these facts, and requesting a removal up to one of the Dublin prisons.  In a few days I was brought up to Kilmainham, where I remained along with Messrs. O’Higgins, Meyler, Rea, Brennan, and Meany, the last of the untried state prisoners, until the third of March, 1849, when we were all liberated on bail, by an order from the Privy Council.
     Before I conclude I cannot avoid inserting here a statement written by Mr. Keely[T M Halpin's father-in-law], giving an account of an interview which he had with the head detective.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow County, Portarlington County Laois, and Dublin City.
« Reply #246 on: Tuesday 13 July 10 20:23 BST (UK) »

1D.

[This is the last extract I intend to post of T M Halpin's account of his treatment at the hands of Castle detectives in the wake of the failed 1848 Young Ireland rising.  I hope Halpin receives better treatment from Irish historians in future, and that his account will receive more attention than it has.  I also hope readers of this site might be able to tell us more about the man himself.]

Mr. Keely says:
     “Having been six weeks hiding, I became so weary of my situation that I determined to return home at all risks, particularly as the arrests had discontinued, and ‘all tranquil along the line’ was the daily telegraph, stereotyped by Johnston.
     “Accordingly I returned home on Tuesday morning, September 4th, about ten o’clock, and before twelve a messenger came to my house to say that Inspector Guy wished to know whether we had received any letter from Mrs. Halpin, as he had written twice to her and received no reply to either; he therefore began to suspect that he was on a wrong scent.
     “This man (as all such men at that time did) boasted largely of the immense amount of  information which the police possessed regarding the clubs, &c.  I answered that of course I knew they could procure any amount of information they paid for, but if they received correct information they would not have acted as they had done – that they had arrested some parties, and had the name of others in the Hue and Cry who would not hurt a snail, much less fight against the government.
     “He said that that was not right, and if the Government had correct information they would let those gentlemen out.
     “The same man called the next day to request that I would go over to the Castle and tell what I knew regarding the innocence of the men I had spoken about the day before.  I refused to go, saying that any persons who saw me going to the Castle at that time would naturally suspect I was going there for the purpose of turning informer.  He departed, but called again the same day to urge me to grant a private interview to some official of the government, at any hour or in any place I liked to name.  This I also declined, but said that any person who desired to meet me on equal terms, as man meets man, and ask me a fair honest question respecting those gentlemen I had no objection to answer him, and whoever desired this could easily find out where I lived.  He then went away again, but about seven o’clock on that same evening, while at my tea, I was told Mr. Guy was in the shop below, and wished to see me.  I accordingly came down stairs, and he asked me, ‘are you Mr. Keely?’  ‘I am,’ I said.  He then requested me to retire with him to a private room, as he wished to have some conversation with me; to which I replied that he could have nothing private to speak to me about, and that anything which he had to say he could say it there (I had previously told the members of my family who were in the house at the time to come down and hear all he had to say).
     “He then turned towards me and said, Mr. Keely, I have called to know from you whether you will become a witness on the forthcoming trials.
     “I replied that it was exceedingly probable I should be one of the witnesses, but not on his side, and that I had no information that would be useful to the government in their present mode of doing business.
     “Oh,’ said he, ‘that will not do.’
     “To which I replied: ‘Well, sir, I have nothing to tell that would operate against those gentlemen about to be tried, and if I had, the crown of England is not able to buy me.’  He then appealed to my wife and daughters, who were present to intercede for him, and induce me to comply with his wishes, and then turning to me, asked me would I sacrifice my children. 
     “I replied that before I would consent to fulfil his wishes I would see every one of them, my wife and all hanged before my face; and one of my daughters said they would die of hunger [the Famine] before they would consent to my doing so.
     He then asked some few general questions about individuals, which I answered honestly, and he departed, saying that he would call again – but he forgot the place.”
Signed “James Keely.”


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Re: Halpins of Wicklow County, Portarlington County Laois, and Dublin City.
« Reply #247 on: Tuesday 13 July 10 20:46 BST (UK) »
1E.

I have concluded an unpleasant task, but one which circumstances rendered necessary.  I have made some disclosures which will not, I am assured, be without value if “pondered fittingly.”
     Two motives urged me to this task; one was selfish – but, I believe, justifiably selfish; I desired to clear my character of a stain which had been cast upon it – a stain which burned while it remained.  I sought to defend my reputation from the dangerous attacks of the malignant and from the foolish insinuations of the unthinking; and I have a proud consciousness that I have not laboured in vain.
     But I had another and higher motive: I desired to benefit my countrymen by tearing the cunning mask from official villainy, and showing the danger of ill-placed suspicion.  Not in our own ranks are we to look for traitors and deserters; our men were true and loyal to their cause – brother does not strike brother, as in the primal crime.  Spies and knaves have been amongst us, it is true; but remember, my countrymen, that they came from the camp of the enemy.  I have spoken bold plain words, fearless of consequences.  I have pursued the detective to his place of refuge, and unmasked the mysteries of the Castle; no consideration for the “affectionate regard” of my “countryman” and my “father’s neighbour,” Mr. Guy – no fear of clashing with the prejudices or hurting the dignity of those in high places, or offending the “heredity loyalty” of Mr. Dobbyn have weighed with me for a moment; I have shown the naked truth – prudery may shudder at it, but honesty must admire.
     And now a parting word.
     Let us, in the name of brotherhood, lay aside mistrust for ever; let us look into each other’s eyes, seeking there the ingenuous expression of honour, not the shrinking glance of treachery.  Let us banish from our vocabulary the words of suspicion and hate, and drive all notions of treachery from our minds for ever.  There is always truth in a People – in a people’s oppressors falsehood is found.  My narrative, if it has no other effect, will surely be a proof of this.
     Confident, then, in each other’s honour, as full of faith in our brethren as of hate in our tyrants – cherishing the “new commandment” which Christ spoke unto men, “love ye one another,” determined by mutual trust and confidence in the present to redeem the errors of the past – let us, hand in hand and foot to foot, and heart in heart, Enter The Gates Of The Future.
Thomas Matthew Halpin.

The following gratifying note I received from Mr. Duffy, after his having read the foregoing narrative in manuscript.  I also received a long and able letter from my friend, Mr. Joseph Brenan, editor of the Irishman, which I regret not having sufficient space to insert here:

Newgate Gaol, March 1st 1849.
     My Dear Sir – I have read your narrative with great interest.  It makes plain what needed no new evidence to me – your public and private integrity.
     During your official connection with the Irish Confederation you were an officer of singular accuracy, industry, and integrity, and you have ended your labours and your services as you conducted them throughout – with credit and honour.
     “Believe me, my dear Sir, very faithfully yours,
C. G. Duffy.
- T. M. Halpin, Esq.”

Note Well this friendship – Charles Gavan Duffy went on to run for the Premiership of the Australian state of Victoria, I think.  His son also played a prominent role in Australian politics.  My initial claim that C G Duffy became Australian Prime Minister was mistaken (I'd read it on Wiki).  Thanks to Bill W., who pointed out the blunder.


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Re: Halpins of Wicklow County, Portarlington County Laois, and Dublin City.
« Reply #248 on: Tuesday 20 July 10 02:49 BST (UK) »
Re my reply 241 of 13 July-
The main thing we learn here is that Mark Halpen, Irish apothecary, who died in England in 1768 aged 83 (b. abt 1685), can not be the same person as his namesake of Ballynamoney, Queens Co., as that person was still alive in Ireland in 1771 (named in a deed of that year). But they could have been related.
The first one seems to have had a number of children, born in England. It is unlikely that he or any of his children would have had any reason to return to Ireland, so I don't believe that any of them are our ancestors.
Ken

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow County, Portarlington County Laois, and Dublin City.
« Reply #249 on: Thursday 22 July 10 16:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Ray, Bill & Kenneth,
Have just found some information on the N.A.I. page.

Part 1. The mission of the National Archives is twofold:
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What's new: 1901 census - all counties available online.
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I entered HALPIN and DUBLIN there are lots & lots of births, marriages & burials but I did not recognoise them, but I think some of the one's posted here are relevant to your research.
Found the following which I think may be your family Ray Do you know who?
Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ARBOUR HILL BARRACKS .  Baptism of ELEANOR SOPHY HALPIN of 3 CONYNGHAM ROAD on 5 November 1851
Datee.g. 13/08/1710: Name ELEANOR SOPHY HALPIN  :  Date of Birth N/R N/R N/R  :  Address 3 CONYNGHAM ROAD  :  Father ROBERT CRAWFORD HALPIN :  Mother ELEANOR HALPIN 
Further details in the record: Father Occupation CHAPLAIN TO THE GARRISON

About the record: Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier Image Filename : N/R  35  N/R  DU-CI-BA-343  d-268-1-1-035 

Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. GEORGE :  Baptism of EDWARD EVELYN HALPIN of 7 RUSSELL PLACE on 17 November 1854
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Datee.g. 13/08/1710: Name EDWARD EVELYN HALPIN  : Date of Birth 19 October 1854 : Address 7 RUSSELL PLACE: Father NICHOLAS JOHN HALPIN : Mother REBECCA HALPIN 
Further details in the recordFather Occupation ESQRE
 Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier Image Filename : N/R  131  N/R  DU-CI-BA-73593  d-298-2-6-038 

Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. GEORGE : Baptism of NICHOLAS JOHN HALPIN of 6 RUSSELL PLACE on 29 September 1851
Datee.g. 13/08/1710: Name NICHOLAS JOHN HALPIN  Date of Birth 12 September 1851  ; Address 6 RUSSELL PLACE ; Father NICHOLAS JOHN HALPIN : Mother REBECCA HALPIN 
Father Occupation GENTM

Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier Image Filename : N/R  46  N/R  DU-CI-BA-73268  d-298-2-5-050 
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Name MARIANNE ISABELLA HALPIN : Date of Birth 18 November 1857 : Address 7 RUSSELL PLACE: Father NICHOLAS JOHN HALPIN: Mother REBECCA HALPIN 
Further details in the record. Father Occupation ESQRE

Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier Image Filename . N/R  23  N/R  DU-CI-BA-73875  d-298-2-7-030 
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Doyle, Malone, Ryan, Wicklow.
Murray of Arklow.
(O)Carroll of Annamoe, & Cornagower, Brittas, Wicklow, & Co Carlow.
Waters, Haughton, Leviston, Goggin. Kavanagh Wicklow.
Lavender and Newman of Ballyhad, Rathdrum.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow County, Portarlington County Laois, and Dublin City.
« Reply #250 on: Thursday 22 July 10 16:45 BST (UK) »
Part 2. Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - RATHMINES
Marriage of JAMES HENRY HALPIN of 1 WENTWORTH PLACE WICKLOW and ADELAIDE MAUDE SUTTON of 25 CHARLESTON AVENUE RATHMINES on 16 November 1897

Datee.g. 13/08/1710:  Husband                                           Wife :
Name JAMES HENRY HALPIN                                          ADELAIDE MAUDE SUTTON 
Address 1 WENTWORTH PLACE WICKLOW               25 CHARLESTON AVENUE RATHMINES 
Occupation SURGEON                                                          GENTLEWOMAN 
Father GEORGE HALBERT HALPIN                                SAMUEL R SUTTON 
Mother N/R                                                                                 N/R 
Husband Age FULL : Husband Marital Status B
Wife Age FULL : Wife Marital Status S
Husband's Father's Occupation SURGEON
Wife's Father's Occupation GENTLEMAN
Witness 1 MARTHA FLORENCE SUTTON (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)
Witness 3 ROBERT GEORGE HALPIN (WITNESS FOR WIFE)

Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier Image Filename
N/R  5  10  DU-CI-MA-3600  d-545-3-5-005 
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Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. STEPHEN
Marriage of WILLIAM OSWALD HALPIN of THE LAUREL FOX ROCK DUBLIN and ANNA MARIA BURGESS of 25 HOLLES ST on 2 August 1881
Datee.g. 13/08/1710
 Husband                                                                                    Wife
Name WILLIAM OSWALD HALPIN                                  ANNA MARIA BURGESS 
Address THE LAUREL FOX ROCK DUBLIN                       25 HOLLES ST 
Occupation ESQ                                                                     N/R 
Father GEORGE HALPIN                                                WILLIAM BURGESS 
Mother N/R                                                                               N/R 
Husband Age FULL: Husband Marital Status B
Wife Age FULL : Wife Marital Status S
Husband's Father's Occupation CIVIL ENGINEER
Wife's Father's Occupation FARMER
Witness 1 WILLIAM BURGESS (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)
Witness 3 WILLIAM MALONE (WITNESS FOR WIFE)
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier Image Filename
N/R  8  16  DU-CI-MA-61347  d-46-3-5-008 
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Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - GLASNEVIN : Burial of ROBERT HALPIN of DUBLIN on 21 August 1821
Datee.g. 13/08/1710
Name ROBERT HALPIN  : Address DUBLIN  : Age 31 : Date of Death N/R N/R N/R  : Occupation N/R 
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier Image Filename
N/R  75  N/R  DU-CI-BU-11682  d-244-4-1-075 

Area - DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. ANNE
Marriage of SWINTON HENRY BOND of 57 YORK ROAD KINGSTOWN and MARY ANNE HALPIN of LEITRIM LODGE CO WICKLOW on 12 April 1882
Datee.g. 13/08/1710
 Husband                                                                            Wife
Name SWINTON HENRY BOND                    MARY ANNE HALPIN 
Address 57 YORK ROAD KINGSTOWN         LEITRIM LODGE CO WICKLOW  (Now the Hostel you visited on Bachelor's Walk, where we parked the car.)
Occupation ESQ                                                              N/R 
Father JOSEPH BOND                                                 RICHARD HALPIN 
Mother N/R                                                                        N/R 
Husband Age FULL: Husband Marital Status B
Wife Age FULL : Wife Marital Status S
Husband's Father's Occupation AGENT
Wife's Father's Occupation CAPTAIN
Witness 1 WM WAT ONEILL (WITNESS FOR HUSBAND)
Witness 3 C E BOND (WITNESS FOR WIFE)
Book Number Page Entry Number Record_Identifier Image Filename
N/R  91  182  DU-CI-MA-8191  d-344-3-6-091 
 (You can view the Church Record and print a copy of it)
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 Julia
Doyle, Malone, Ryan, Wicklow.
Murray of Arklow.
(O)Carroll of Annamoe, & Cornagower, Brittas, Wicklow, & Co Carlow.
Waters, Haughton, Leviston, Goggin. Kavanagh Wicklow.
Lavender and Newman of Ballyhad, Rathdrum.

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Re: Halpins of Wicklow County, Portarlington County Laois, and Dublin City.
« Reply #251 on: Friday 23 July 10 02:22 BST (UK) »
Very good to hear from you Maeve.  Comments may best come from others on some of these.  The one that intrigues me most (the only one I know nothing of, I think) is ROBERT HALPIN buried from Glasnevin parish in 1821 aged 31.

At present I don't think I know of any Robert Halpin born around 1790.  Who is this?

Bill.