Halpins of Co. Wicklow, Portarlington and Dublin City - Part 2

[BillW]

Diane, what Wicklow directory was that , please?

I suppose a currier was a leather curer.  Was that different to a tanner?  Probably a smelly business.  I suspect that Anne Halbert's parents were connected to the Cotter and Eaton families.

Ray has expressed the theory that William and James Halpin were distillers, which may have been a neat fit with Eaton Cotter as a mal(t)ster.  At the time of this directory, both of them were about 10 years old, leaving the question as to what their father(s) was/were.

John Halbert may have been Anne's father.  Just as James seems to have been determined to name a son Robert, it seems they were equally determined to call a son John, the first, John James, born and dying in 1830, to be followed by John Augustus in 1832.

Bill.

[J.M. Flannery]

In 1729 Wicklow ale, was sold at Donnybrook Fair. ref. The Humour of Donnybrook Fair by Seamus OMaitiu. can't put my hand on it at the moment.

Brewing Industry in Wicklow “The Report on the State of Popery in Ireland in 1731”

Page 1:  Paragraph one:
          “As can be seen from the taxes of 1620, there was a brewing industry in Wicklow
Page 1:  Paragraph two:
          “In 1620 The Castle had 45 acres of land and every person selling beer in Wicklow town was obliged to pay to the use of the Castle four sextaries (pints) for every bushel of malt brewed.  According to “The Report on the State of Popery in Ireland in 1731”
Page 1:  Paragraph three:
          In 1788 some verses on Good Wicklow Ale were discovered in the portfolio of a literary chapterer in London. The verses included these lines:
         ‘Tis a toss-up of head or tail
         ‘Twixt Burgundy and Wicklow Ale,
           Ladies hate the weak and pale,
           Not so the man who drinks good ale;
           Stout and ruddy, strong and pale,
           You’ll sure succeed on Wicklow ale’.

Ref: Wright, G.N.: A Guide to the County of Wicklow, London, 1827, p 69.
   There were at least 4 Brewers in Wicklow in the middle or late 1800s:
1.   Kilmantin Hill Called The Warrants. 
2.   Fitzwilliam Square, later the Rialto cinema, & now Rialto House,
3.   The Green Tree, Fitzwilliam Square, later the Green Tree Hotel, This building was later divided,
a)   Robert Conway lived and ran a sweet shop, then a sports shop by his son John & Grandson Declan Conway      
 b)   Clarke Delahunt Auctioneers, now also divided. Left = ‘Re/max’ Auctioneers. Right was a coffee shop, “The Griddle” occupied by Mrs Lou (nee Porter) Sillery until 2007 when she retired, and then Eamonn Sheridan office accommodation planning application in Wicklow People 2nd Aug 2007 p53.
4.   Don’t know where – yet?

   Upper Monkton Row – now called St Dominick’s Road was also knows as “The Long Bar” up until about 1950 – reason, every house was supposed to be a shee-been. The residents bought the beer down the street for c 1d then on Sunday morning, when the public houses were closed, they sold it on to customers for 1½ d. Ref. Local knowledge.
Julia

[J.M. Flannery]

MILD ALES - WHAT ARE THEY AND WHERE DID THEY COME FROM? By Dr. John Harrison

“Defining Mild Ale. In Table 1, I have collected some 16 examples of beers called mild, or apparently mild (e.g. denoted X, XX or XXX, in brewbooks), or whose formulation suggest a mild ale, e.g. Wicklow Ale. Two of the ales, Cobb's mild and Tetley XX have hop rates so high as to raise questions about whether they should be included. Taking the rest at face value, then a mild ale can have any OG between 31 and 125, a hopping rate per barrel of any value between 0.75 and 2.9 and any colour between pale amber and brown. These are pretty wide limits. How ever, with the possible exception of the Tetley B and C, the common thread that limits the others is the modest hop rates, particularly in relation to the gravity of the samples. However, it is known that sweetness on the palate has a masking effect on perceived bitterness (11).
Wicklow Ale 1805.  OG = 125:  Hopping lbs/barrel = 2:  Colour = Amber:                  Comments = Genuine high gravity mild: Ref. = 3:  Address Index = 1.6"
Just another little bit of information. found on the www.

Julia

[kenneth cooke]

I know I have proved nothing as yet, but I’m not going to sit staring at a blank sheet of paper. I’ve written a possible scenario for the early Halpens of Queen’s Co., the first five generations:                                 

Nicholas Hal(f)penny ‘Generosus’ of Queens Co. c. 1650 m. ? Paget

Padgett 1682                                   Mark c. 1690

?Nicholas Headmaster     Paget (army)   ?Patrick,engvr    Eliz.       
c.1730                             c. 1735             c. 1740              c.1750

Wm Henry                       Paget c 1765    John 1764         John Paget Sweny
                                       Engraver           Min. Painter

Rev Nich John                  Paget 1795
                                       to USA

We know that Padget 1682, student at T.C.D. was the son of Nicholas  ‘Generosus’ of Queens Co. Most likely Mark of Ballynamony was another son.  Paget (army) seems to be his son, who later lived at Ballynamony. The name Paget continues in Mark’s line, but there is no Nicholas as yet.

Nicholas, headmaster, fits into the same generation as Paget (army), and is probably a brother or cousin. Patrick, the engraver, also belongs to that generation, and it would be logical to assume that he is the father or uncle of the next Paget c. 1765, also an engraver.
We have found no Pagets in Nicholas the headmaster’s line, but his name links him to Nich. Generosus, who is most likely his grandfather.
The several Mark Halpens in England and Nicholas b. 1726 in London are not verified, but even if they were, they would be compatible with the scenario above.
Ken
           
                                     

[BillW]

Searching the 1901 Census by Halpin/Wicklow/Church of Ireland, I came to the household of Dr James Henry Halpin in Wentworth Place, Wicklow Town, who was a son of Dr George Halbert Halpin and Eliza Bradley.

I had recorded that his wife had been Adelaide Maud Sutton.  The census records that living with them was his unmarried sister-in-law, Martha Florence Eatton (sic), and both Adelaide and Martha state that they were born in Wexford.  Their three Catholic and unrelated servants state that they were born in Co Wexford so it can be assumed that Adelaide and Maud may have been born in Wexford Town.

Had the Eaton family moved south, to Wexford, and is this a much later tie-up between the families?

Bill.

[BillW]

(1)
In reply #24 of this series, Page 2, I reported on the application by William Halpin for a cadetship with the East-India Company to serve in Madras.  I did this more or less in full.  As also reported, I had applied for another LDS Film of the same sort of applications from William’s brothers, John and George, as well as by George Halpin’s son Oswald.  I have now inspected this film, LDS Film 1951860, series L/MIL/9/162-3.  The applications all take the same form so in this report I will only extract details.

John Halpin (1805-1848, 3rd son of William Halpin paymaster KGL)
Produced King’s Commission City of Edinburgh.  Nominated for the Madras Infantry by EIC director Neil B Edmonstone on the recommendation of John’s father, in exchange from a nomination by Mr Morris in exchange for the Bombay Infantry.  Under examination, John declares that he was educated by Mr John Falloon, Dublin, the nature of that education was classical and mathematical.  His father is Captain Halpin King’s German Legion and now resides in Dublin.  Witnessed by M. Mackenzie (relative or friend present when examined).
Extract from the Register Book of the Parish of Wicklow in the County of Wicklow, “John, Son of Captain William Halpin and Eliza his wife Baptized July 3rd 1805.”  Signed by the curate, Robert (illegible) and church wardens ?B Keoghan and Joseph Sutton.
The parent’s certificate acknowledging the application is signed by William Halpin 14th March 1826.

[BillW]

(2)
George Halpin (1807-1891, 4th child and son of William Halpin paymaster KGL)
Produced King’s Commission City of Edinburgh.  Petition of George Halpin as a Cadet for the Madras Infantry is nominated by EIC director John Baillie Esq. at the recommendation of and signed by the Marquis of Huntly 21st April 1826.
Under examination, George states that he was educated at the University of Dublin, the nature of the education Clafsical and Mathematical, his father a Half Pay ret. Captain residing near Dublin, he was recommended by the Marquis of Huntly, signed in the presence of Frederick Haldane.
Extract from the Register Book of the Parish of (Killeseide?) alias Tullamore in the County of King’s County Ireland.  George Halpin Son of William and Elizabeth Halpin was born the 3rd of October 1807 and Christened October 12th 1807 by the Revd William (illegible).  Signed Joseph Meredith Curate, Geo McMullen and Wm Deverell wardens.
Parent’s acknowledgement of the application signed by William Halpin 26th March 1826

[BillW]

(3)
Oswald Halpin (1810-1834 younger son of George Halpin sen.)
The petitioner is desirous of entering the Military Service of the Company, as a Cadet for the Bombay Infantry, nominated by EIC director George Smith at the recommendation of Colonel McDonald.   Signed by Oswald 3d July 1826.
Under examination, at what School has your education been – University of Dublin, the nature of that education – Clafsical and Mathematical.  What is the profession, situation, and residence of your Parents or nearest of kin?- Civil Engineer, Irish Government, the Father, lives at Dublin.
Signed in the presence of Thomas (can’t read) N(or 1)5 Cheyne Row Chelsea.
Extract from the Register Book of the Parish of St Thomas’s in the County of the City of Dublin.  Oswald son of George and Elizabeth Halpin baptised 10th day of January 1810.  Baptized by me John (Tea?) Curate of St Thomas’s, John Hewson, ? Edwards, Church Wardens of St Thomas.
Acknowledgement of the application signed by George Halpin 20th June 1826
It would appear that the parents' consent was earlier obtained and the sons took away their applications for completion in, possibly, Edinburgh and London.
I mentioned in the Page 2 posting that the cadets committed to Captain’s Table and Charter-party Passage Money costs of £110, plus Third Mate’s Mess and Charter-party Passage Money of £70.  In the application, the petitioners acknowledge that they have been furnished with the Articles of War, that they shall “as a Condition of his Appointment, subscribe to the Military Fund at his respective Presidency" (eg Bombay) and they indemnify the Company against loss and non-payment of such funds.

Oswald got to Bombay from Bordeaux in France.  [Source, the Bombay Calendar 1828.]  Arrival Jan 23 1827 by French ship Anna Maria, captain Pelletier.  Mr O Halpin, Cadet, passenger and ship origin Bordeaux, 1st port The Cape.

Bill.

[Diane Carruthers]

Bill,

You were asking about the title of the book containing the directory for Wicklow.

The full title on the library's Eighteenth Century Collections Online is:
The Cork directory. For the year 1787, including the adjacent out-ports of Youghal, Kinsale, Cove, Passage, and the manufacturing towns of Innishannon and Bandon, in the county of Cork, Kingdom of Ireland dedicated to the Right Hon. Earl of Shannon. Containing An accurate list of the names and places of abode of the bankers merchants, manufacturers, gentlemen of the law and physick, and principal traders in this opulent city and envirions, and the adjacent out ports of Youghal, Kinsale, Cove, Passage and the manufacturing towns and Bandon and Innishannon; alphabetically arranged so that the particular residence of any individual in each place, may be instantly known, & which work is immediately necessary to be in the hands of every person conerned in trade and commerce. By Richard Lucas. To be continued annually, carefully corrected.

On the title page for Vol 2 the title is "A General Directory of the Kingdom of Ireland or Merchant and Traders by Richard Lucas  1787-88.

I know the title and contents of Volume 2 don't jive with the title of Volume 1 but that is how it is catalogued.

Diane