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Swenys in America (1)
« Reply #90 on: Friday 02 May 14 05:42 BST (UK) »
A number of Swenys settled in Canada and the U.S.  Albert Edward, the son of Fredk.Wm. the chemist, of  1 Lincoln Place, Dublin, settled in New York. He arrived on 6.2.1911, aged 22. His passage was paid by his father. It seems that it was necessary for him to leave Ireland. 
A present day relative in Ireland remembers hearing that ‘a sandy-haired young man had to leave
for the US because he was in some trouble at home.’
The ship’s list describes his hair as brown. We do not know whether he stayed in the U.S.

Fredk.Wm’s brother, Herbert Sidney, b.1859,  paid the passages for his four sons between 1910 and 1920, and in 1930, a widower, he went to New York and stayed with his son Frederick. He then went on to visit Walter and family in Pennsylvania. He returned to Ireland and died in 1933. Both Frederick and Walter were later drafted and served in W.W.2.
Walter’s son, Walter jnr. settled in Texas. His other son, another Herbert Sidney, born in 1920, graduated from high school in Erie, Pennsylvania in 1939, and was drafted into the navy during the war. In 1946 he started his own engineering business in Erie, and today it is still a family business, with his five sons in positions of management, and employing about 575 people.

Lieutenant Colonel George Augustus, son of John Paget, the Waterloo veteran, emigrated with
his wife Alice to Vancouver, Canada. He donated an antique silk screen from  the Abyssinian Campaign to the University of British Columbia.
He was very active in his retirement, being involved in many different organisations. He was a  founding member of the Canadian Red Cross in 1909, and the same year was president of the Royal Canadian Golf Association. In 1915 the king appointed Sweny a Knight of Grace of the Order of St John of Jerusalem. He died in April 1918.  Most of his ‘souvenirs’ from Abyssinia (now called Ethiopia) had been donated to the Royal Ontario Museum, where they remain today.

George’s two sons, Roy and William Frederick, also settled in Canada, as well as his sister Marie Louise, (Mrs. George Humphreys). Roy went to study at Christ’s College Cambridge from 1890 to 1894, then returned to Canada where he married in 1899. Roy’s elder son George William, b.1900, a company general manager, and his wife were among 37 killed in a plane crash at Moose Jaw, as they were flying from Montreal to Vancouver in 1954.
 
William Fredk became a Brigadier General and was wounded in the First World War, while
serving as GOC of the 61st Infantry Brigade. He received the DSO and CMG medals. He later settled in Scotland with his second wife, Kathleen Blackett, née Bagenal. They took the name Blackett-Swiny. He had two sons by his first wife, George Frederick and Charles. The elder son, 21 years old, was killed in India in a riding accident.
 
George's brother was Mark Arthur, whose youngest son, Clarence Stowell, b.1882, also went to Ontario, Canada, where he married in 1921. His descendants still live there. His son Alan served with the RAF during WW2 as a tail gunner, and returned to Canada after the war.

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« Reply #91 on: Friday 02 May 14 05:49 BST (UK) »
Another brother, Albert Henry and his wife Anna Roy settled in Albany, New York, which was Anna’s home town. Albert was one of the founding members of the Albany Country Club. His son Harry Roy Sweny wrote a book about golf, “Keep Your Eye on the Ball and Your Right Knee Stiff”, dated 1898. He married Louise, daughter of General Amasa Parker, a U.S. judge.
Harry was well known in golfing and social circles, and owned a trotting horse, and of course, belonged to his father’s Country Club. His obituary, in The New York Times of 28.5.1914, described him as one of the best known amateur sportsmen in the country.

Dr. Mark’s second daughter Lydia, married John Jos. Egar in 1873. By 1881 they had five children, all born in Dublin. By 1888 they had moved to Quebec, Canada where two more were born.
Egar died there on 15.9.1899 and Lydia on 8.2.1900, followed by their son Herbert Sidney, who was killed in an accident in the USA on 12.6.1900. The two youngest children, Winifred 12, and Stanley,10 (they may have been older) were noted in the Dublin Census of 31.3.1901, staying with the Wilkinsons. They sailed back to Canada in 1904, presumably to be looked after by their elder siblings.

William, son of John Paget (2), became a lawyer and broker, of 140 Nassau St. New York, and married a French girl, Blanche, but no children are recorded. He was naturalized in 1871.
The New York Times of 23.5.1884 reported that he was arrested and charged with ‘Conversion
of Money’ (misappropriation). He was released on bail of $2000. He applied for a passport in April 1891, giving his date of birth as 20.9.1850. In 1910, from the same address, he wrote to the Office of Arms, Dublin to request information about the Sweny family pedigree, traced back from J. P. Sweny, his father. The details in the letter of reply are based on the faulty Sweny of Dublin pedigree. He made several trips back to Ireland, one in 1930 when he was a widower.

Gladys Paget Sweny, a nurse, born in1893, emigrated to the U.S. in 1906 to stay with William Sweny, the lawyer. In US immigration records, she refers to William as her uncle, and to her sister, Hilda in Dublin, at the same address where Ralph and Edith were living in the 1939 Electoral Roll. So she was Ralph’s daughter and a granddaughter of John Paget, undertaker.
She made several trips back to Ireland. She never married and died in 1967.

Lady Rena Terrington, née Swiney (descended from both Sweny & Swiney), appears to have settled in the U.S. after her husband’s trial. She is said to have died in 1973, but neither the time nor the place has been verified.



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Re: Sweny of Dublin
« Reply #92 on: Friday 02 May 14 10:06 BST (UK) »
This seems to be his baptism in St Annes C O I, 24 Sep 1889
Frederick William Albert Edward Sweny 1 Lincoln Place son of Frederick Wm and Sophia Mary, i think the census returns for 1901 and 1911 are for a second marriage of the father to a Sarah.
Now the interesting thing is there is a marriage on the civil index in 1910 for a Frederick William Sweny could this have been him and possibly disapproved of by his family.

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« Reply #93 on: Friday 02 May 14 10:10 BST (UK) »
So are Frederick William and Albert Edward the same person?


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Re: Sweny of Dublin
« Reply #94 on: Friday 02 May 14 10:50 BST (UK) »
To Dathai,
No, they were two brothers, baptised at the same time.
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« Reply #95 on: Friday 02 May 14 11:03 BST (UK) »
Are you sure there is no indication on the baptism that it refers to two people.

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« Reply #96 on: Friday 02 May 14 11:12 BST (UK) »
also Frederick William appears on 1901 Census age 11 but no Albert Edward.

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Re: Sweny of Dublin
« Reply #97 on: Friday 02 May 14 12:09 BST (UK) »
This could be something to do with his trouble back home
Prison Register Mountjoy 1909 Fredk Sweeney (also known as means next of kin) Fredk Wm  Sweeney
address 1 Lincoln Place born 1889 Charlemont Rd offence resist police.
There are no Frederick Sweeneys on the 1901/1911 census in Dublin.

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Re: Sweny of Dublin
« Reply #98 on: Friday 02 May 14 12:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that,
Now I wonder, there are no Swenys with four names + surname.
I have tried to ring my distant cousin in Ireland, she is a niece of the two Swenys involved, but
unfortunately she's not answering.
I'll try again, and we'll see if we can sort out this mystery.
Ken