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Re: Puzzle at The Red Lion
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 27 February 10 18:11 GMT (UK) »
From the Northants Marriage Indexes.

Towcester

09 Apr 1787 By License

John JENKS of Potterspury, widower to Elizabeth MAYNARD otp, minor, but with the consent of her father

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Re: Puzzle at The Red Lion
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 27 February 10 19:27 GMT (UK) »
Wow!

I have just returned and found all this new information.

I can't thank-you all enough for all the hard work and dedication you have put in trying to track this family down...JJ has turned out to be far more interesting that I thought at first. 

There are certain things that I have to do right now, but I will try and pop back in later this evening.  I just wanted to let you all know...."How Great You All Are!"

Thank-you,
Shalena

Brookes - Rotherfield. Carroll - Cork S.Ireland. Campbell - Dornoch. Cunnison - Moulin,Perthshire.  Forbes - Moulin. MacKay - Sutherland,Scotland. MacGregor - Inverness. MacIntosh - Dornoch.    Mew - Buxted,East Sussex. Monro - Sutherland. Murray - Creich,
Sutherland.  Pollard - Buxted, East Sussex. Priestley - Newington.  Reid - Logierait,Perthshire. Ross - Dornoch.  Sayers - Warnham,
East Sussex. Scot - Logierait,Perthshire. Weaver - East Sussex.

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Re: Puzzle at The Red Lion
« Reply #47 on: Sunday 28 February 10 01:18 GMT (UK) »
Hello everyone,

Sorry it has been so long.

John - Thanks for leaving those threads.  I have not had a response as of yet.  Shame, as we are both looking for the same family lines it seems.

Shaun - That article you found about George C Jenks was great.  I may try looking into that side one day when I am a lady of leisure.  From the image of him, we don't seem to have been handed down any of his looks over the years...thank goodness!  Not exactly a 'movie star' look about him...but he does remind me of someone...just can't think who at the moment.

Sandy - Thank-you for 'popping in'...your input has been gratefully received.  I am left wondering what the 'Jinks' part of John's name is about though!?  ::)

To all who have taken the time to help me out with John Jenks and his family, I send a heartfelt
"Thank-You".  I couldn't have done it without your time, efforts and experience.  I am glad it has appeared to be more than just a humdrum 'born-lived-died' tale.

Best wishes to one and all,  maybe our paths will cross again sometime...
Shalena



Brookes - Rotherfield. Carroll - Cork S.Ireland. Campbell - Dornoch. Cunnison - Moulin,Perthshire.  Forbes - Moulin. MacKay - Sutherland,Scotland. MacGregor - Inverness. MacIntosh - Dornoch.    Mew - Buxted,East Sussex. Monro - Sutherland. Murray - Creich,
Sutherland.  Pollard - Buxted, East Sussex. Priestley - Newington.  Reid - Logierait,Perthshire. Ross - Dornoch.  Sayers - Warnham,
East Sussex. Scot - Logierait,Perthshire. Weaver - East Sussex.

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Re: Puzzle at The Red Lion
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 03 March 10 18:17 GMT (UK) »
The 3 John Jenks marriages at St Pauls Bedford were all by licence.

Oct 22 1819 John Jenks of St Pauls, bachelor to Sarah George of St Pauls, spinster

Dec 4 1847 John Jenks of Seymour Street, Euston Square, London Middx, widower to Mary Tebbs of St Pauls Bedford, widow

Jan 25 1859 John Jenks of St Pauls, widower to Susan Frances Probutt of St Lukes Chelsea, Middx, widow   
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Re: Puzzle at The Red Lion
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 03 March 10 18:26 GMT (UK) »
Added value from the John Jenks marriage entries

25/10/1819 to Sarah George; in presence of William George & Lucy George

06/12/1847 to Mary Tebbs
JJ is desribed as a Gentleman, his father John Jenks, Innkeeper
Mary is Inkeeper, father Robert Hill, Coachman 
Witnesses Edward Langley & Thomas Loveledge (the parish clerk)

31/01/1859 to Sarah Frances Probutt
JJ is Inkeeper of High St Bedford, father John Jenks, Innkeeper
Sarah is of St Lukes Chelsea, father Germain ? Joseph, wine merchant
Witnesses Willian Harrison ?? ?? ?? , Emily Jenks, Sarah Maria Jackson, Matthew Smethurst 
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Re: Puzzle at The Red Lion
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 03 March 10 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Also checked marriage of Eliza Adelaide Jenks to John Hill at St Pauls on 10 July 1854. Both are of full age, Eliza's father is John Jenks of High St Bedford, Innkeeper, John Hill is a gentleman, father Robert Hill(s) of Stepney, Brewer. Witnesses John Jenks & Michael M Mays ?

So is this Robert Hills father of John Hills related to Robert Hills father of Mary Tebbs, very much doubt it is the same chap due to age gap.
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Re: Puzzle at The Red Lion
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 03 March 10 18:48 GMT (UK) »
Noted there is a baptism at St Pauls on 14 Jan 1853 of John Worrel Jenks, son of George & Eliza Jenks, clerk, of Tavistock Street Bedford

In the 1853 Bedford Directory, listed under 'Clergy, Gentry, etc.' is George Jenks, Tavistock Street. While in same book under 'Trades' is John Jenks, victualler, "Red Lion" hotel & Posting house, High St Bedford (omnibus to meet the train at Sandy station).

The directories for 1850 and 1854 also list Joh Jenks at the Red Lion

In 1861 he is listed as lime buner at 7 Union Street

In 1864 he is listed ar the 'New Inn' on Tavistock Steet

From 1869 he is not listed.

That's all folks......
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Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
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Re: Puzzle at The Red Lion
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 03 March 10 21:23 GMT (UK) »



  Hello .....

  Well Germain is there in the records....

 Susan Frances Joseph bapt 28 Dec1810 St James Westminster
 father Germain Winnoch Joseph
 mother Susan
 siblings are Germain Thomas John b 1813
                    Eliza Mary b 1816
                     Emily Charlotte b 1817
                    Juliet Caroline b 1819
                    Francis Henry b 1820
                    Alfred Albertus b 1823
                    Isabella Ellis b 1825
                   Arthur Charles b 1827
          Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Puzzle at The Red Lion
« Reply #53 on: Thursday 04 March 10 06:55 GMT (UK) »
Good-morning John and Tazzie,

I had a lovely surprise when I finally logged on this morning (after we had had a power cut last night), to find that you had both come up with all this extra information.  Thank-you both very much, you really have gone the 'extra mile' with this family.

Thought you may like to know about this I found in the London Gazette:-
7 February 1850, a petition for adjudication of Bankrupcy filed against George Stillwell Jenks of 12, King's Street, Hammersmith, Middsx; Cheesemaker, Dealer and Chapman, a bankrupt.....pg 624

7 November 1850, The Court has authorised the Bankrupcy for a Public Sitting to be held on 25 February, 1851.....pg 283

7 November 1850, George S Jenks has to surrender to Joshua Evans Esq; on the 19th of November 1850, and the 19th December 1850.....pg 2976

Looks like he is following in the family 'tradition'!

Regards, Shalena



Brookes - Rotherfield. Carroll - Cork S.Ireland. Campbell - Dornoch. Cunnison - Moulin,Perthshire.  Forbes - Moulin. MacKay - Sutherland,Scotland. MacGregor - Inverness. MacIntosh - Dornoch.    Mew - Buxted,East Sussex. Monro - Sutherland. Murray - Creich,
Sutherland.  Pollard - Buxted, East Sussex. Priestley - Newington.  Reid - Logierait,Perthshire. Ross - Dornoch.  Sayers - Warnham,
East Sussex. Scot - Logierait,Perthshire. Weaver - East Sussex.