Puzzle at The Red Lion

[johnP-bedford]

Shalena,  You are correct in most things. 

On his marriage to Susan Probutt in 1859 it says that JJ is Innkeeper of High Street Bedford.

On his son George Stillwell Jenks' marriage in Oct 1848 it says JJ is licenced victaller.

On his daughter Augusta Amelia marriage in May 1851 JJ is hotel keeper of St Paul's (his daughters address)

Jun 1854 advert in Beds Times says John Jenks of Red Lion, Bedord

On his daughter Eliza Adelaide marriage in July 1854 JJ is Innkeeper of High Street.

On 1861 JJ is an Innkeeper still at the Red Lion, although not the licencee.

1863/1864 JJ is licencee of New Inn Tavistock Street

Melville's Bedford directory on 1867 has JJ lime burner of 7 Union Street

By 1871 JJ & wife Susan are back in Stratford Le Bow, Tower Hamlets

[Shalena]

Good-afternoon John,

Thank-you for clearing all that up for me! 

I seem to have got muddled up between when JJ was the actual licencee at the Red Lion, and when he was just working there.

It seems that JJ was at Union Street later than I thought, in 1867, not the early 1860's.

Hopefully I will soon be able to get all this collated properly and typed up...will certainly clear up some of the scribbled notes that lay higglety-pigglety over the desk.   

Many thanks for your help once again......hope you and yours have a lovely Easter.

Shalena

[johnP-bedford]

found this regarding George Stillwell Jenks, the cheesemaker, dated Oct 1850

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18501021-name-722&div=t18501021-1827#highlight

[Shalena]

That trial transcript was interesting...thank-you John.

I wouldn't have thought that the name 'Stillwell' would have been all that common, especially with exactly the same christian and surnames, and both living in the same area at the same time...but what do I know!

Hopefully this shows that they are indeed two different people, who just happen to share a name...maybe from some kind of family link somewhere in the extended family?

When writing up all your research, I have not included this part in the general body...just as additional notes so that someone, at some time, can follow it up if they so wish.

Regards,  Shalena

[johnP-bedford]

From the Beds Archives - they have a copy of the will of William Tebbs, of Bedford, Innkeeper, signed & dated 5 June 1845, witnessed by George Witt, M.D,, Bedford & George Bryant, builder, Bedford.  It says " I bequeath all my real & personal estate to my wife Mary Tebbs......" . Proved on 18 Oct 1845 ... 'personal estate at time of death did not amount to the sum of fifteen hundred pounds'

Fair enough - he left everything to his wife, no mention of son, William Tebbs the younger.

Moving on.......   I have copy of last will & testament of Mary Jenks (late Mary Tebbs widow) now the wife of John Jenks, late of Seymour Street, Euston Square in Middlesex, an officer in the Establishment of the London & North Western Railway Company but now of the town of Bedford, Innkeeper; whereas previous to my marriage to the said John Jenks, a marriage settlement was executed whereby all my personal estate & effects was assigned unto Mr Edward Langley & Mr William Harrison Upon trust for my separate use during the joint lives of the said John Jenks any myself And if I should be the survivor in trust for me absolutely But in case I should die in the lifetime of the said John Jenks them immediately after my decease upon trust to dispose of the same and after payment of expenses to raise & retain the sum of three hundred pounds sterling .......................

......... & bequeath the said sum of three hundred pounds unto my natural daughter Jane Savage the wife of John Savage of St Marys, Bedford, Glover & Breeches-maker & shall appoint the said Edward Langley & William Harrison to pay the whole sum of three hundred pounds unto her....

The will is dated 8 Dec 1848 -  a year after she marries JJ, it is proved 31 March 1851 where 'the personal estate was under the value of two hundred pounds at time of decease'  

It should be noted that Edward Langley was a witness at marriage if JJ to Mary Tebbs, & that William Harrison is a witness at marriage of JJ to Susan Probutt

[Shalena]

What a find...how interesting to see what was bequeathed and to find out that Mary and William  (I trust William was the father!?), had a daughter, Jane.

The sums of money talked about are interesting.  £150 would have been approx: £13,100 RPI and £116,000 ae in 2008;  £300 = £26,200 RPI & £232,000ae;  £1,000 = £80,000 RPI & £772,000ae.  Quite considerable sums in those times.  Not bad for now either!

It seems that the same old names keep cropping up when following this family through their lives.  But then Bedford would have been a relatively small community, I think around 7 thousand in the mid-1800's if my memory is working properly; and London/Middx; were not as populated as they are now.

Thanks John, great work,
Shalena

[phveens]

Greetings Shalena
I see you are researching the Priestley family. I am also researching this family for a dear friend. She descends from Maria Louisa PRIESTLEY. I would be interested in discussing this further.
Thanks

[Shalena]

Good afternoon phveens,

I have only just picked up your message, so apologise for the delay in responding to you.  Having just checked the little information I have about the PRIESTLEY's in our line, I have not managed to locate anyone named Maria Louisa.  If you could give some more detail as to her birth, marriage etc; then I may find a link with 'our's' as someone that we were not aware of.

Look forward to hearing from you.
Regards, Shalena

 

[phveens]

I have a Thomas James Priestley b 1825 Newington (son of Thomas James Priestley & Sarah). He was one of 7 siblings, Maria Louisa being one of them. Other siblings were Nancy, Sarah, Hannah, Amelia, Jonathan & Benjamin, all born Newington, Surrey.

I think you wrote in one of your messages that John Jenks was the Father of Augusta Amelia who married your ggg grandfather, Thomas Priestley and I was thinking perhaps he and Maria Louisa might be brother and sister but perhaps not.

Do any other names ring any bells??

Thanks