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Norway, Trjomo - PEDERSEN
« on: Friday 26 February 10 16:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Researching one Otto Monrade Pedersen (Sometimes 'on') b 1851 Norway, on his marriage cert son of Orliff Pedersen. On IGI Norway he is son of Ole Pedersen & Maren Andersen b Trjomo. Would this be Tromso? and can Orliff be Ole? Knowing almost nothing of Norway or Norwegian I need help! Thanks, Flower

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Re: Trjomo, Norway
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 February 10 19:36 GMT (UK) »
This is a good overview to genealogy in Norway:
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/articles.html

That IGI entry is "submitted" information, so only as good as the research done by the person who submitted the info (which, as they give his birthplace as "Trjomo", I'd take with a pinch of salt).

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/
 - he naturalised in 1909, as Pedersen, Otto Monrad, aka Walter Otto Pedersen.

Important things:
Otto Monrad Pedersen, if that was his name at birth in Norway, may have a father Peder.
Or if his father was "Orliff" (Olaus? Olaf? Oluf?), at birth he might have been Otto Olafsen etc.

The name "Monrad" does not appear to be a farm name; it appears in Norwegian censuses as both a first and last name (possibly linked to families who originated outside Norway). "Monrad" could refer to Otto's mother's family, or to his father's, and might not be given as part of his name at birth.

What was his father's occupation on the marriage certificate?
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Re: Trjomo, Norway
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 27 February 10 13:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Many thanks for that, it was very useful. Orliff was a master mariner.

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Re: Trjomo, Norway
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 February 10 18:53 GMT (UK) »
If his father was also a mariner then the family may have moved around quite a lot; I can only suggest that you get a copy of the naturalisation papers.

(http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,130042.0.html - there's some information on the first page of this thread about what one rootschat member got in their ancestor's naturalisation records)

If you can confirm his birth date and birth place then it should be possible to find him in the parish records even without knowing if he was "Otto Monrad" or "Walter Otto" or just plain "Otto" at birth.

Forgot to link it before:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/ - censuses, digitised parish registers, and other databases are here.
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Re: Trjomo, Norway
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 February 10 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that. Unfortunately all I have is that he was born 1850/1 in Norway, he says his father is Orliff, a master mariner...does Norway have the equivalent of our maritime records?Flower

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Re: Trjomo, Norway
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 February 10 00:07 GMT (UK) »
There is some information here:
http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/NorwaySeamenResearch.html

There is also on the Norway archives site a list of seamen from Tromso but I didn't see Otto there (he may have been based elsewhere).

If I were you I would order a copy of the naturalisation records; these may give birthdate, birthplace and parents' names.
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Re: Trjomo, Norway
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 February 10 12:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much for all that, will do! Flower

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Re: Trjomo, Norway
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 February 10 14:24 GMT (UK) »
You might consider he came from Tromøy which used to be part of Arendal in Aust Agder. 

There is also a users forum on the digital archives Jorose has provided, you might find someone there that might be able to help you. You can post queries in English, just make sure you give all the information you have clearly

As Jorose says he may have moved around a lot and the place he says he was from may not be the place he was born.


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Re: Trjomo, Norway
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 February 10 16:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, thanks, will investigate further, Flower