Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier

[DarrenMW]

Thomas Richey....

1865 (circa) b. Holborn.

1871  no census record found?

1881  no census record found?

1883-1895 Serving overseas with British Army (Queens Royal West Surreys)....source: military records.

1891 living Strand, London as 'brother in law-military reservist' with Catherine Hollingsworth Ferguson.

1911 living 16, Maiden Lane, London, WC2 occupation theatrical Stage Hand

1914 enlists British Army, listing addr as 16, Maiden Lane, next of kin 'Catherine Ferguson-sister'

1915 marries Emma Wood (actually Emily Wood) Kingston, Surrey. Living in Long Ditton, Kingston,. Surrey.

1917 departs Army, now residing Brighton, Sussex.

1938 dies Brighton ,Sussex.

of all the troubling points, the complete lack of a Birth cert and ANY listing as a child on 1871 and 1881 census is baffling. I can only assume he was living under another name at that stage.

Richey had an anchor tattoo on his arm, per his military records,.....link to navy as a youth perhaps?

[avm228]

Darren, have you had a look at this naval record?

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=6855098&queryType=1&resultcount=2


I would be intrigued to know the contents of this record. Sorry if it's already been covered!

[avm228]

AHA!

A birth registration, the date of which is consistent with the birthdate of 23 May 1864 on that naval record. (NB - remember Bertha's second middle name of Walker?).

Birth, Jun qtr 1864

Robert Thomas Hollingsworth WALKER

Holborn 1b 522

[DarrenMW]

Great stuff!

the 'Walker' match definately warrants the raising of half an eyebrow. This Master Hollingsworth may or may not be the Robert Smith we see in 1871, and may or may not be the engimatic Thomas Richey, but I am now convinced he is a valid piece of this puzzle.

This Walker -Hollingsworth name combination is far too strong to be coincidental.


Robert Thomas Walker Hollingsworth was born May(ish) 1864.
Bertha Selina Walker Hollingsworth was born March 1870.

have we proven the Father of Bertha Selina?



Tom Hollingsworth 1st wife Isabella dies in between these two children
s birth.

AHA!

A birth registration, the date of which is consistent with the birthdate of 23 May 1864 on that naval record. (NB - remember Bertha's second middle name of Walker?).

Birth, Jun qtr 1864

Robert Thomas Hollingsworth WALKER

Holborn 1b 522

[DarrenMW]

any thoughts of the Robert Smith = Tom Robert Hoillingsworth theory. it gets very confusing.

 

[DarrenMW]

'Thomas Richey' names his first born.....' Robert Thomas'...I aint sayin',....I'm just saying'   

AHA!

A birth registration, the date of which is consistent with the birthdate of 23 May 1864 on that naval record. (NB - remember Bertha's second middle name of Walker?).

Birth, Jun qtr 1864

Robert Thomas Hollingsworth WALKER

Holborn 1b 522

[avm228]

Darren - any chance you might be minded to invest the £3.50 for that naval record of Robert Thomas HOLLINGSWORTH (b 23 May 1864)? I don't know how much it will give you, but still...

[avm228]

have we proven the Father of Bertha Selina?

Jan has the birth certificate and told me this about it in a PM (hope Jan doesn't mind me reproducing it here):

"Berthas birth cert she was born 21/03/1870 i cant read the address but its in the district of St andrews Holborn Middx daughter of Thomas Robert Hollingsworth and Sarah Eliza Hollingsworth nee Smith. Sarah signed the cert the address could be 29 Newham street Grays Inn Rd."

[DarrenMW]

Im still thinking mr Hollingsworth assumed Ms Smith last name , as reflected on 1871 census.

given that she gives her maiden name as Smith.

So Im sure the lad Robert Thomas Walker Hollingsworth is realted to Bertha Selina Walker Hollingsworth, is there any sight of the lad after 1871? the navy sighting in 1881 still viable?

I'm inclined to think Walker is a family name as was common in those days;intrguing.

Thanks
Darren