Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier

[avm228]

...and at death he was supposedly 73 in 1938 - leading to a birthdate of approx 1865!

[avm228]

In 1891 census his age is given as 25, meaning a 1875/76 YOB

No - 1865/66 per my mental arithmetic

[lizdb]

Have we found the dad (Thomas/Robert Hollingsworth/Smith) 's death?

I would so like to see if he left a will and if so what children he mentions in it ...... the Smith lot? The Hollingsworth girls? 'our Thomas'?

[avm228]

The death of Thomas/Robert HOLLINGSWORTH was November 1907 (reg Dec qtr 1907 as Robert HOLLINGSWORTH).

I have looked in the probate calendars for 1907-1910 and (very regrettably) found no trace of a will/grant of probate or administration for Thomas (whether as Thomas or Robert).

[DarrenMW]

Thanks for checking 

We know he died in City Road, Holborn Workhouse (Shoreditch?) in 1907, and  from Jans great info we know he was in that Workhouse from March 1904 to death in Nov 1907.

Would that mean by definition, that he was destitute? if so, we are unlikely to find him leaving anything to anyone 

[avm228]

I seem to recall that Jan said something about his having dementia (?).  In any event, he doesn't seem to have left anything to anybody which is a great pity.

I suppose it is still possible that his wife Mary might have left a will.  She was still alive in 1911, but did we ever find her death (or did Jan know of it?).

[DarrenMW]

Mary died 14th Febuary 1953 aged 95. Mary was living at Highbury Terrace Islington when she passed away.The cause of Mary's death was Cardiac failure, Heart block and Senility the informant was her son frederick hollingsworth.  "


per Jans records

[DarrenMW]

This probably nothing, and even if proven i've no idea where how it helps, but desperate times call for beer desperate measures.

remember the June 1915 wedding cert for Thomas richey and Emily Wood

well, the witnesses were
Robert Young
Frederick Maret (could be maset,but unlikey)

so, I ran a  search on Frederick Maret and two things eventually matched up;

1) a Frederick Maret married Ap/Ma/Ju 1875 Strand,London 1b 858. that's our Thomas Richey's place of birth and familys pivotal area for decades. Our Richey would be a kid at the time.

2) a Frederick William Maret is discharged from the 7th London Rgmt in June 1915. that's the same Rgmt Thomas Richey is in at that time!

Now way at all of confirming any link between the two Marets (same guy or not?),or either with Richey yet, but I've got my nose to the ground in hope of a lead.

[DarrenMW]

searching militray records for Frederick Maret. I found 4 images for him...

including his sign up papers June 9th 1896 and the signature on the official form is 'identical' to that on the 1915 Richey/Wood marriage cert.

Maret gives his addr as 3,Telford Rd, Kensington. age as 18 yrs 3 months. making him born early 1878, so 10 -13 years younger than Richey.

Frerick Wm. Maret died July/Sug/Sept 1924 aged 46 (meaning a 1878 DOB..very possibly our guy)

doubt this helps us, but i am certain it's the witness from the wedding as the sigs are identical....I've been watching CSI Miami