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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #126 on: Tuesday 02 March 10 09:58 GMT (UK) »
Whoops! So still his rheumatism then....

Just looking again at first page

Question says has he served in Army or navy  and he says yes.

So you are right, it isnt necessarily Navy, but refers to his time as a Volunteer with the Queens?

Though I knew better by now than to see things that arent there .... :-[
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #127 on: Tuesday 02 March 10 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again Liz! Very interesting read.

Here's what I have from his WW1 military papers...obtained by a friend on a WW1 history site a while back.

he served previously in the Army 1883-1893 Queens (Royal West Surrey) Rgmt in India, Burma, Egypt, Malta and South Africa. withe the campaign medals listed for Burma twice, and Egypt.

Prior to re-enlisting in Dec 1917 he was in the volunteers (kinda territorial army) which was very common for veteran soldiers in those times.

he gave his age as 46.5 years old at sign up in Pimlico December 1914. he gave his home addr as 16, Maiden Lane, Strand, London WC2 and sister Catherine Ferguson as next of kin living on Exeter Street WC2.

I saw no record of the 38 or 42 years old? Interesting, you have additional papers.

I don't see that he returned to the Queens (West Surreys) I can see the different units he served with Fusiliers initially, before being moved to pretty quickly to the home based Royal Defence Corp. He didn't go overseas in teh 19140-1917 period.

I have the same discharge papers in 1917 and pension amounts etc going to Washington St, Brighton.


He was disciplined in 1916 for being absent and sentenced to 7 days jail.
He was previously reduced in rank in June 1915 (2 days after his wedding!) for allowing himself, the escort and the prisoner ( :o ) to be drunk!

I didn't see the papers with his physical description, so that is a huge bonus!

 





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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #128 on: Tuesday 02 March 10 13:43 GMT (UK) »
You may have hit on something, I can't believe I didn't mention this.

My Nan - Clara King (nee Richey) (Thomas Richeys Daughter b.1920) is very religious and CATHOLIC!

All her siblings followed the same faith.


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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #129 on: Tuesday 02 March 10 13:51 GMT (UK) »
The Catholic thing is intriguing indeed.

The only baptisms we have for children of Thomas/Robt HOLLINGSWORTH are C of E - and those are two of his daughters with Isabella.

No baptisms have been found for his children with Eliza or Mary.  It is possible that Eliza and/or Mary were Catholic and hence the absence of C of E baptisms (though such absence is equally consistent with the children (a) not having been baptised, or (b) their having been baptised in C of E churches for which we don't have access to the registers).

But one still has to wonder about that Irish family in Middlesbrough...

Any red hair in the family? ;)

NB We didn't ever find a birth for the daughter Cecilia b abt 1880 who appears as Mary in 1891.  Given the SMITH discovery I now wonder whether this one might be relevant?

Birth Sep qtr 1879 

Mary Cecilia SMITH
Holborn 1b 745
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #130 on: Tuesday 02 March 10 13:59 GMT (UK) »
Several marriages of the HOLLINGSWORTH children have been traced to C of E churches.  Where did Thomas RICHEY marry Emily WOOD?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #131 on: Tuesday 02 March 10 14:09 GMT (UK) »
Bertha HOLLINGSWORTH and her husband Arthur Horace BOLT baptised at least two of their children at the C of E church of St Clement, City Road (1903 and 1904 respectively).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #132 on: Tuesday 02 March 10 14:10 GMT (UK) »
We obtained the Thomas Richey/Emily Wood marriage cert from the Kingston records office.

the marriage took place in Surbiton, but it doesn't list a place (i.e Church).

the marriage took place in June 1915. Thomas Richey was aged 46 and  Emily Irene Wood was aged 24!  :o


their 1st child was (Robert T W Richey) was born late 1915 (Marylebone, London)

Uh huh,....I did the math on that too  ::)


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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #133 on: Tuesday 02 March 10 14:12 GMT (UK) »
I think the Mary Cecilia Smith 1879 Holborn birth details are a definite hit!


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Re: Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier
« Reply #134 on: Tuesday 02 March 10 14:12 GMT (UK) »
the marriage took place in Surbiton, but it doesn't list a place (i.e Church).


Really? I've never seen such a thing.  What does it say at the top, then?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)