Thomas Richey and kin 1914 and earlier

[avm228]

.... but if he is the Smith one where did he get the surname Richey from by 1891?

What a mystery this one is!

Ummm...went AWOL from the Impregnable and had to change his name?

I don't know!

[DarrenMW]

yes, unfortunately.

I am very excited about the Smith link....it brings many answers (i.e the entire family missing 1871 census, and a name for young Thomas)

On the other side of the coin, it wipes out our one connection to 'Richey' which is a shame, as Mary and Middlesboro connected by her own words on a  London census and also her marriage etc with Patrick Ritchie)

Still, it is all very exciting!

Continued thanks to you and AVM for your wonderful assistance.  

[DarrenMW]

I have his WW1 military records, which although created in 1914 shows his previous service with Queens West Surreys from 1883-1995 in India, Burma,Egypt, South Africa, Malta.

My sister in law is going to Kew Records office (soon) to obtain the actual military record for that period.

he was almost certainly using Richey  by 1883 (unless the military record is incorrect)

.... but if he is the Smith one where did he get the surname Richey from by 1891?

What a mystery this one is!

Ummm...went AWOL from the Impregnable and had to change his name?

I don't know!

[DarrenMW]

Again, on the HMS Impregnable link, are there any other 'R.Hollingsworth' born Holborn/St.Giles around 1865?

If not, then that strengthens our suspicions, and the link.
 

[lizdb]

I am just looking at his records on Ancestry - but there are pages and pages and I need to be off, so will have to come back tomorrow to it.
However, first page when asked if he has served before in the Royal Navy he says 'yes' which does strenghen the links with the person on the ship (Smith? Hollinsworth? I forget .... ) and then "discharged date....which I am trying to make out!

Sorry to leave in the lurch!

[avm228]

Again, on the HMS Impregnable link, are there any other 'R.Hollingsworth' born Holborn/St.Giles around 1865?

If not, then that strengthens our suspicions, and the link.
 

Can't easily see anyone else fitting this description in BMD or 1871 census.  See what you think on www.freebmd.org.uk in case I've missed anyone.

[DarrenMW]

Absolutely, I check there....I was always told that site wasn't very accurate?

As we're looking for Thomas, should we be worried that R.Hollingsworth,  not T. Hollingsworth on the ship.


Thanks 

[DarrenMW]

on FreeBMD

I ran 1860-1870 births for R. Hollingsworth

- just 2 ladies from London in 1862 and 1869 - not of interest to us.

I ran 1860-1870 births for T. Hollingsworth

-  Thomas Charles Hollingsworth b.Bethnal Green Dec 1865?

- Thomas J.A. Hollingsworth b.City of London June 1866?

[avm228]

As we're looking for Thomas, should we be worried that R.Hollingsworth,  not T. Hollingsworth on the ship.

My hypothesis is that R HOLLINGSWORTH (1881) and Robert SMITH (1871) may be one and the same.  Whether they are then the same person as Thomas RICHEY (1891) is another question!

Thomas RICHEY was, for what it's worth, registered at death as Thomas R. RICHEY...